Chris Brown Totally Looks Like A Douche
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It’s an old and overdone joke… But it fits so perfectly!
i dont get it
He allegedly beat up his girlfriend, the singer Rhianna. A douche is a device used for feminine hygiene, but is also a term to describe a jerk. If the allegations are true, Chris Brown is indeed a douche.
No, it’s just “douche”. The only time it’s “a douche” is when there’s “bottle” or
“bag” or “nozzle” following it.
Er, no. Wrong.
Er, no. Correct.
congrats! you just won at the internet!
In the future, I will recall upon what we know to be a genius. He was a intellectual master. His words will be quoted as, “congrats! you just won at the internet!”. Thank you very much Jared. You have saved the world.
Acording to dictionary.com: Douche: “A jet or current of water, sometimes with a dissolved medicating or cleansing agent, applied to a body part, organ, or cavity for medicinal or hygienic purposes.” so yes, it can exist on its own, the bag and such are just containers.
its a german word, it means shower
No, it’s French. <_<
OHHHHHHHHH BURN!!!!!!!!!
HAHAHAHA….but yeah he is a douche…mostly cuz hes a rapper LAWL jk rap fans
the german word is “dusche”
I’m a douche.
lol awesome reply – i lurv e-fights dont you?
Chuck Norris.
I win.
ur soo right !!!!
if u spell chuck norris in the game scrabble, you win. Forever
helen keller
i win
Er. Um. You’re a fool.
Me too
You fail, go take an english class dumbass
You have failed! Go take an English class, dumb-ass.
way to say exactly what i just said, dick
Understanding irony fail
hahaha. he’s quite stupid.
Engrish? 0.o
Ahahah.
Rotflmao.
You fail. =P
Excuse me sir, do you speak American? Stupid rednecks.
I’m wondering is AMERICAN a recognized language? I’m thinking no – but good try.
Understanding irony fail.
Uhm… just a thought but… American isn’t a language nor is red neck and just so your not confused neither is your idiocy.
Just so you’re not confused:
Your is possesive as in “It’s your handbag, you big jessie”
You’re means you are as in “You’re a big jessie”
It’s called sarcasm, you fool. In trying to make yorself sound clever you have revealed yourself to be an idiot. He also never made any claims that redneck was a language.
Jeez! That’s the funniest comeback I’ve ever seen, seriously.
Er, no. Wrong
hah!
So, Cris Brow is douche? Please elaborate more on how that makes any sense.
You don’t say “a semen” do you? Same difference.
We’re not speaking German, where an occupation or position is noted by subtracting the “a” (“ein”). He’s *a* douche, not *douche*.
I human being. You Tarzan.
Christ.
Do you say “a milk”? Come on, English is a Germanic language. Speak
it properly or don’t speak it at all. If you want a douche, that would be
the act of douching. If you want douche, you want a package of Summer’s
Eve.
Don’t be such a douchebag.
“a douche” is the term for a jerk.
Name one time where you would say, “I want douche.” Name one fucking time.
I actually do want douche.
Actually, I had a friend in college whose nickname was douche. So if you were attracted to him you would indeed say “I want Douche”. I suppose i’t is capitalized though.
if you said “i want douche” then you would want the liquid inside
the bottle, theres one fucking time asshole
and english is not germanic. its a basterdized language from
french, british, (yes)german, and also latin.
Ownage xD (not a word, I know
)
english is germanic. but that has nothing to do with the word douche.
So I’m pretty sure, please feel free to correct me if I’m wrong, British is not a language. It is quite possible to be Bristish and they tend to speak (stereotypically) with good grammar, but they do not speak British. The first language of Great Britain is English. Again if you feel I am wrong, feel free to correct me.
If you’ve ever been to England you’d realise half the people here are chavs who don’t go to school and know no grammar at all. Brits have no better grammar than Americans. The most annoying thing in the world is people who think that.
You’re quite a douche bag.
Germanic doesn’t mean the German language. It’s a group of related languages. French, German, English, Etc.
“i cn haz douche?”
srsly, when describing a person it’s *a* douche. do you say c. brown is “asshole” or “*an* asshole”?
Here you go: “Hey, are you going to the store? I want douche.”
Congratulations. “English is a Germanic language.”
Douche is a FRENCH word.
Douchebag.
Verpiss dich ICDK haha
Is it boredom or the lack of no life which causes you all to
argue over how to say douche on the internet?
*applause*
Only *A Douche* would argue over the correct grammatical usage of the word “Douche”. I don’t think you guys need to worry about Douches but should focus on some enemas because you seem to be a little anal.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
“lack of no life”?? You fail at insults. A LACK of no life would mean they, in fact, DO have a life.
Asshat
Bratty FTW!
bratty, i have to say, i have never ever heard or seen anyone ever call someone an Asshat.
or is it ive never seen anyone ever call someone Asshat?
Lulz
is it boredom or lack of life that makes you read all this crap?
*more applause*
Dude, French is too.
Errr…..no, french was a latin language last time I checked.
It’s not called a latin language… any language with latin descent is called a romantic language.
They’re called “Romanic” languages, not “romantic”. They descend from Rome, not Cupid. =P
The Romance languages (sometimes referred to as Romanic languages, Latin languages or Neolatin languages) are a branch of the Indo-European language family comprising all the languages that descend from Latin, the language of ancient Rome. There are more than 600 million native speakers worldwide, mainly in the Americas, Europe, and Africa, as well as many smaller regions scattered throughout the world. Some speakers of Romance languages can be considered douches.
Common Sense ftw! That is pwnage.
finally. someone with a brain.
Who cares what it is called! you’re both a couple of douchebags!
You just said it yourself you moron. You called someone *a* douchebag. *a8 docuhe is the same. FFS.
well, a douche is the same when spelled correctly. That is: douche is short for douchebag, you douche.
Oh if only the comment system didn’t suck.
see the difference? if you’re speaking to one whom you refer to as ‘douche’, then there is no need to add ‘a’. as in: ‘how’s the weather, douche?’
but if you are speaking to one whom you do not refer to as ‘douche’, then you add the a, as in ‘i asked him about the weather, but he’s being a douche.’
L2ENGLISH, imo.
He must be just messing with you… no one is THAT stupid pretending to be smart!
Fail. English and German are both Romanic languages(derived from Latin).
lol
Both of these are plural forms of noun – semen and milk – that is the only reason you drop the A. In the case of Douche – it is a singular noun therefore the A is required
Semen and Milk are substances, not objects. Just like water, soil, etc. You’re on the right track, and I might be wrong, but it’s not the exact same as being plural.
semen is plural. douche is singular.
Nice spelling
Or when “ICDK” follows it.
Are you stupid??
You WOULD say “a douche” instead of “douche”. The word douche is a normally a noun, it is a real thing/object.
For example, you would say “that is A ball” not “that is ball”. If you are using an object to relate to someone you could say “Hes fat, he looks like A ball” Again using “a”.
The only time you wouldnt use “a” is when you use word as an adjective, and usually you replace the “a” with the word “the”
Such as “The ball is red”
So saying “that guy is douche” isn’t right. It should be “that guy is A douche. Technically the only time it would work is if you said “the douche of a guy” because you’re relating a noun to a noun. Again, it would work in the case of the fat man… “the ball of a man”
The funny thing is that ‘douche’ in french means ’shower’…
“Man that Chris Brown is such a shower” lol
funny…
I’m gonna go take a douche right now.
Peter has a ball – The ball is red.
John has a ball – The ball is blue.
Peter and John are playing with their balls.
MOST EPIC COMMENT EVER!
I LOLed like hell at the picture, and LOLed TWICE as hard at these comments! This one in particular made me fall off the bed.
You, sir, are a god.
God what a douche.
RED DRAGONS!!!!!
yea what a doucher
dude OMG this is classic LOL
Doh!
What does the douche and Chris Chris Brown have in common. They both seen their fair share of Rhiana’s blood.
okay that was ridiculously clever. lmfao
Why would Rhianna be using a douche while bleeding?
Wouldn’t she have other things to worry about? Like getting a band-aid instead of worrying about vaginal cleanliness?
She has something called a menstrual cycle, like all women. She bleeds from her vagina.
And she would probably use a douche to clean up. Duh?
um.. you dont use a douche to “clean up” period blood … unless we’re talking about the french usage of the word… sorry for being A douche
Doodle FAIL
What is most satisfying about the whole Chris Brown/Rihanna ordeal, is that his music airplay, and hit songs virtually evaporated overnight. His career is done, and that is the best possible punishment for this loser.
Epic win of justice over stupidity
That was great…hahahaha
I am now at the end of the longest chain of replies i have seen in my life and ya these random chain fights are epic…
holy shit! a twin!
He looks like a total douche regardless of the beating up that chick who’s name I can’t spell incident.
Amen to that. This is damn near tops on my list of “Shit I could care less about…”
So you actually care about it?
Lol, thanks for pointing out one of my biggest pet peeves. You win!
OMG I totally agree! This drives me nuts!
I concur. I also hate when people use apostrophes wrong, to show plurals.
I hate when people uselessly use commas in sentences where they do not occur. If you don’t take a breath in that spot when speaking out loud, do not add it into your sentence. example: ” I concur. I also hate when people use apostrophes wrong, to show plurals.” WTF is that comma there for?
And by the way, the correct phrase is: “I couldn’t care less” meaning: “I care so little for this stupid topic, that it would be virtually impossible for more to lessen my lack of care to any further of a degree of uncaring” Viola and You are most welcome.
Seriously, you don’t know /what/ youare talking about. Also, the other person’s usage was incorrect.
Finally, why do you care? It’s a post on a ridiculous forum on the internet.
LESSEN your lack of care to a further of a degree of uncaring? seems a bit hypocritical , does it not?
its called an itrodutory clause >.>
Hi guys, do you want to go to the game?
introductory*
you just lost the game
a comma does not necessarily show where one would take a breath, it shows where a natural break in a sentence occures.
Are you talking about A viola, as in the instrument, or were you trying to say “Voila!” but failed miserably?
One of my big beeves too. I also can’t stand “irregardless”.
LEEROY JENKINS SUCKS DOUCHE!
or is it a douche?
its the same plural or not so either way
perhaps you should care. no woman deserves to be treated like that and everyone should use this as a lesson to talk to you friends if you think they are abused, to educate kids on what is right and wrong in a relationship and to to spur an abused partner to leave.
actually some women do suck enough to deserve what happened to her or worse. im not commenting on the people involved, just the situation. i don’t advocate violence against women children or animals, but women have the capacity to do all manner of bad things. over 200 women kill their own children each year, and the cases of physical, sexual, emotional abuse, and lets not for get neglect or indifference. so that part about no woman deserving to get smacked is in my opinion isn’t well thought out. of course, chances are if a woman is exhibiting that kind of behavior, the likelihood oh her being a victim of abuse is extremely high. the way we treat each other dictates the rules for engagement. when violence or neglect are brought to the table and shared, they will both proliferate.
chimmeychango
March 24th, 2009 at 7:50 am
“actually some women do suck enough to deserve what happened to her or worse. im not commenting on the people involved, just the situation. i don’t advocate violence against women children or animals, but women have the capacity to do all manner of bad things. over 200 women kill their own children each year, and the cases of physical, sexual, emotional abuse, and lets not for get neglect or indifference. so that part about no woman deserving to get smacked is in my opinion isn’t well thought out. of course, chances are if a woman is exhibiting that kind of behavior, the likelihood oh her being a victim of abuse is extremely high. the way we treat each other dictates the rules for engagement. when violence or neglect are brought to the table and shared, they will both proliferate.”
as a victim of domestic violence i find this highly offensive. I was 7 months pregnant and the father asked me to leave i grabed my purse and headed towards the door and the next thing I know I’m getting dragged back in the house and was beaten and choked on and off for 2 hours until I could leave. Thankfully both me and my unborn child survived. I did nothing to provoke him to do such a thing and even if I had noone ever deserves to be abused. It wouldnt have mattered if he walked in on me with some other guy he would still have no right to attack me. It’s one thing to have a verbal argument but it turns into a completly different catagory when violence is involved. Every day thousands of women are abused and killed by they’re spouse. And it’s the ignorance of people like you that keep the cycle going.
Thank you for showing that guy the realities of this sort of thing – and props to you for sharing what happened, I wouldn’t have the guts, so well done!
Amen…
Amen indeed.
True that women do terrible things too, but to say that some women suck enough to deserve that kind of treatment? It seems that Chris Brown and the douche have a triplet.
my apologies, from your response i don’t think you understood my point.
i will attempt to reiterate my response. when i mentioned that some women really suck, i was not referring to the average person. rather i was pointing
out that women are just as capable of horrific behavior as men, and should
not be excused because of gender. i cant even comprehend spousal abuse
on any level, as the way we treat the ones we love is the most honest reflection of who we really are. i do not advocate violence as a solution for any problem however, it seems to be the only thing a minority of mislead individuals understand. what happened to you isn’t right, and i don’t think it should be tolerated by any community. the unfortunate truth seems to be that in many cases of spousal abuse, the abused is unwilling to prosecute, thus hindering the system of justice in those cases. i apologize if my prior statement was misleading, it was not my intent to advocate abuse of anyone
or anything. ever. it was my intent however to advocate swift and fair justice
to those who would knowingly and willfully cause harm to others, without
good reason in order to end the cycle of violence in our society.
They’re excused just because of their gender?
.
Men do stupid stuff all the time but don’t get beaten up as much as women do. What’s the excuse for that? Their gender?
I’m glad you were beaten. Long Live the Smack!!
That is rude! You don’t even know her! No one here knows the WHOLE story!
Maybe Poon is just bitter because the only thing he beats is his wanker. Put the lotion away my friend and pick up a book.
lol omg
Reading comprehension Fail.
How, in any way, shape or form, does your situation apply to what chimmeychango said?
Wait… it doesn’t!
Now, let’s turn it around the other way. Let’s say you were a coke-snorting, booze-swilling, meth-head trailer-trash mom and your not-those-things husband tried to walk out on your worthless ass, kids in tow. You then attempted to physically stop him from doing so. Guess what? You’d deserve to get your ass kicked.
although that is a wee bit harsh, i agree.
and to those who say it’s not okay for men to hit women, stop discriminating! a women hits a man “she stands up for herself.” a man hits a woman “that bastard!”
Lets just say this:
Violence is bad, no matter what gender a person is. It all depends on the situation, really.
However, people need to understand that violence breeds more violence, and violence isn’t just physical.
If a woman is told she’s .standing up for herself she was, people don’t just say things no matter what the situation eg. nobody would say she was standing up for herself if she just decided one day to stab her husband
Uh yes they do. People all the time say that women are standing up for themselves when they hit a guy. Rarely are any demonized. Yet men who hit a woman are always demonized.
someone should hit you
Why is it okay for a woman to smack a man but not a man to smack a woman? Most people think nothing of it when a man gets slapped across the face but if a man were to hit a woman, everyone shits a brick.
Why is that?
It is not ok to hit anyone, male or female. In either situation it is assault, abuse, etc. It is not ok for women to hit men or for me to hit women. Violence solves nothing and in the long run all it does is make things worse for both parties involved. Abusers need to learn that it is not ok to physically touch someone in anger and victims need to learn to stop the cycle of violence and leave there abusers. I do not care if there are children involved, if the victim has no job or a place to go, it is not ok to stay and take it (actually if you have kids, it is horrible to stay in the situation and let the kids see it, because it can lead to way more problems for the kids then a divorce would.). Chris Brown is more of an idiot then most because he did interviews before this insident about how his father adused his mother and how he would never lay a hand on a women and Rihanna is an idiot for going back to him and, in essence, accepting what he did to here.
Here, here!
Women Slaps Man: Man Says “Ow.”
Man hits woman: Woman BLEEDS.
Duh.
Woman bleeds once a month regardless; what’s a little bit more?
Well another reason is men naturally have more muscle, and have always been the “breadwinners”, so to speak. Therefore, it’s been drilled into our DNA that men are stronger, therefore that men can’t be hurt my a smack.
However I agree with Foxy, in that it is never alright to hit anyone. ^_^
By*
If a woman murdered or tortured her own child I would beat her ass myself. However, I would rather see a woman guilty of such a crime get the chair or lethal injection. That is sexual equality done right ! ! !
Someone call the fucking waaahmbulance
LMAO!!! Waaambulance, I love you!!!
lol love it and am gunna use it
“killed by they’re spouse”
Killed by they are spouse? That makes no sense.
Funny how people come to pick on grammar because they can’t find anything else wrong with the comment.
Hence the qualifier… “Some” women.
i feel for you and your situation, i have known too many women who have been victims of domestic violence and abuse in general. but i believe what chimmeychago was trying to point out (he failed) is that although domestic violence is a daily occurence and is sickening, no one is without sin. and claiming that no WOMAN deserves to be beaten is a little one sided. woman cause domestic violence too. maybe not in as many cases, but no PERSON deserves to be a victim. regardless of gender
Nobody deserves to be beaten, male or female – EVER.
And here, ladies and gentlemen, are some people who don’t deserve to be beaten – EVER. Made possible by gadiss.com(/2008/10/top-mass-murderers-in-history.html) and Wikipedia.
Note: List only includes kill count, not the things that they did that would have made death a gift.
.
k = 1,000
m = 1,000,000
> = over
100k
Idi Amin Dada —— 100k-500k (most say 300k)
Benito Amilcare Andrea Mussolini —— >430k
Mengistu Haile Mariam —— 500k
Jean Kambanda —— 800k-1m
Leonid Ilyich Brezhnev —— >1m
Saloth “Pol Pot” Sar —— 1.5m
Genghis Khan —— >1.7m (just 2 cities)
Saddam Hussein Abd al-Majid al-Tikriti —— <2m
Suharto —— 8m + 10k’s of Allied POW’s
Adolf Hitler —— 6m (Holocaust) + 42m (European deaths in WWII)
Joseph Stalin —— 20m
Mao Tse Tung —— 70m Chinese + countless others of the Far East
.
And that, ladies and gentlemen, are some of those who are never to be beaten – EVER.
That took me the whole afternoon to compile. You’re welcome.
Idi Amin deserves it. He can get it right beside Joseph Kony.
Wikipedia has a record of being inaccurate in it’s reports
I hate to nit-pick, but Hitler actually killed 9 million, 6 million were jews, therefore a more reported number. Sorry, I do appreciate this though, there are some in here I’ve never heard about and will now research. ^_^
what!? No one ever? That’s the most ridiculous thing I’ve heard in a while. There are plently of people who do terrible things everyday, both men and women, and they deserve to be beat at the very least.
wtf is wrong with you?! no one deserves EVER (!!!!) TO GET HIT! when i was a kid, i was a pain in the ass to my mom, and she beat me all the time, even tried to kill me a several points in my life. now, though i was a pain, did hitting me solve anything?! NO! the only reason any person should ever hurt another person is in self defense. people who are violent like that have some sort mental issue, its not natural, and there is NEVER any excuse. people like you make me sick, because you either hit someone and are looking to excuse yourself, or you’re ignorant but need to run your mouth all the time.
I’m sorry but just because you were a pain in the ass and didn’t learn dosn’t mean that beating someone is wrong. Don’t tell me you have never hit a person in your life because, unless I’m mistaken, you are human and the thing about humans is that violence is the thing we know best. I’m inclined to agree with Smelton. If I could go back in time I would not only beat a few people but there are a few that I would snuff out without a second thought. I don’t consider my self a violent person, but there are a huge amout of people that deserve less than the dirt they walk on. People as a whole are a violent and disgusting race. I’m not saying there are no good people, but the way we treat animals and other people is horrible. When ads on T.V. come on that say stuff like “look at this poor dog. it has been beaten and starved. this is inhumane and should be stopped.” I get annoyed because that is exactly what humanity does. So in conclusion to my little rant, it is perfectly natural to feel the need to hit something or someone at some moments. this does not mean it’s right or wrong it’s just a NATURAL feeling or desire that humans and most other species have.
Now please explain how hitting someone suggests that you lack knowledge.
what about hitler?
I don’t know. There are some men i would be quite happy to see beaten, and I don’t mean in a sexual sense. Close to the top of the list would be a Mr. George W. Bush.
so basically, you’re saying some women deserve to be beaten? Wow. You really are a fucking asshole.
He said SOME women. Big difference.
Scratch that. Real comment below.
Woman are susceptible to the same desires of man, and thus, are able to commit crimes worthy of a beating, or more. Unless you don’t know, there ARE female serial killers, rapists, abusers, and other abominations.
wow, that’s exactly what i meant. thank you wyde.
Meh, what took you 34 lines of text to get across, I did in 4*. No biggie.
*Not to toot my own horn, or anything.
look, anyone who commits a horrible crime like that has something wrong with them mentally, and cant control themselves the way you or i could. they should either be killed painlessly, or locked up where they can get treatment. they’re not the same as normal people and shouldn’t be held to standards they cant meet, then get punished for not meeting them.
so your saying we should hurt someone for hurting someone else??? I find you hypocritical and, for lack of a better word, dumb. Just as a little side note; I’m guessing your religious. you know the whole eye for an eye tooth for a tooth?
You must remember that most if not all women who are “abused” are
asking for it. Most, if not all women who file a report of being “abused” are
only begging for attention, in other words asking for it.
What the fuck? You deserve to go to prison, you ignorant prick.
idiot on the loose, his momma would be proud
Nah, his momma’s dead from a beating. But hey, she deserved it, right?
Askin for it?
Woah, nice guy. You come see me and we’ll see who’s asking for it you mama’s boy. Dare ya….. I’d beat you so hard you’d never again finish a sentence….. next time you close your eyes I’ll be waiting boy.
your a tool buddy. “You must remember that most if not all women who are “abused” are asking for it.” WTF?? so how many girlfriends have you beaten.
That’s not why we come in here as Anonymous to talk crap right? It’s certainly not for attention.
what the heck are you talking about? for the past few days people who are killing their families all across the world are not women!!!
1) vietnamese guy who killed 13 people (US)
2) redneck man who killed 5 of his children (US)
3) boy in Germany who killed his classmates and teachers
4) guy in france or belgium who thought he was the joker like you who killed toddlers
5) Mexico cartels are usually ruled by men
6) a douchebag in montreal canada burned his 2 children because he had an argument with his wife
these are all men who killed in the past few days so please
before saying dirty things think about it twice
I’m sure that there are more men than women killing their children each year so please shut up
You’ll notice that number 6 says, “A douchebag,” not simply, “Douchebag.” Just bringing it back to the original point.
*sigh* Words like ‘ball’ and ‘pencil’ are countable nouns – they refer to a singular object and can be used with ‘a’ in front. Words like ‘milk’ and ’semen’ are uncountable – they refer to the stuff and can’t be used with ‘a’ in front. According to the dictionary: douche – a jet or current of water used for medicating or cleansing; the device used for administering such medication. As it refers to a singular object (i.e. the stream of water or the device) it is therefore countable and can be used with ‘a’ in front, i.e. ‘a douche’.
just because there are more men doesnt exclude the woman offender
Perhaps you are feminist and need to be beaten yourself. A few knocks to your head might be good for you.
You really need to SHUT YOUR MOUTH! You probably grew up in a family that settled arguements by beating the crap out of eachother!
Let me tell you something buddy; the day you cut off your penis, crush your toes in a vice, then seppuku yourself, is the day you get to lay a finger on her AFTER you get through me.
Learn respect, or you’ll learn something else the hard way.
Yeah, I’m definately against hitting a woman, I would never do it in my life, but to say that NO woman deserves it…. that’s a stretch.
its rihanna and not that hard
Best looks like ever.
He needs to take old “Summers Eve” and shove it sideways. But she’s just as big a douche for staying with him. They deserve each other.
Wow, what a retarded comment. People might be naive and even a little stupid to stay with their abusers, but that never means they deserve it. Ever. Have you ever been in an abusive relationship? I have, and let me tell you something, it’s hard when all you know is that person. Everyone is susceptible to being a victim, and being a repeated victim. Everyone. No one is immune. An abuser is suave, sure of him or herself and charismatic, and they will do anything to get their victim back, even a strong person could crack under the pressure an abuser puts on to be welcomed back. It’s part of their ability and NEED to control. They’ll stop at nothing to have what they veiw as thei property returned to them. I’m sad for Rhianna, and I hope she comes to her senses soon, but I’m not surprised one bit that Cheesedick talked her into taking him back, and in no way do I think she deserves him. And shame on you for even suggesting it.
Signed.
*knocks you off your soapbox* If she stays in an abusive relationship, she deserves everything she gets.
Damn straight! What’s the saying again? Oh yeah, “Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me!”
Are you kidding me? Let me let you in on a little secret. A woman is 75% more likely to be KILLED by her batterer if she LEAVES than if she stays.
You think women should run in these situations? Where to? What if she doesn’t have family or friends because he has systematically severed her ties to them? What if she doesn’t have any money to get there? Where will she stay once she gets to where ever it is she’d going? what if all the DV shelters are full? What if she has children to feed? What if there are no services to help her out where she lives?
To say that “women should just leave their batterers” is a very naive comment, and shows that you didn’t really think the situation through. Even if she does have family, he probably knows where they are, and will track her down. I knew a woman who left her abuser after many years with him. She even moved states. 5 years after leaving him, she found him hanging outside her apartment. Batterers just don’t stop that easily.
I didn’t say she should leave him. That’s her decision. But, if she doesn’t leave and he does it again, she only has herself to blame.
Personally, I’m a bit archaic in my thinking. For the record, yes, I am a girl, and yes, I really do believe what I’m about to say. I feel that men do have the right to beat their wife if they get out of hand. {That’s my personal belief and I don’t expect anyone else to share it except for the typical guys making stupid comments.}
In this case specifically, she has a massive network of people willing to help her and make sure she gets out. The press alone will help with that simply because domestic violence in a celebrity relationship is better news than everyday run of the mill domestic violence. She has the means to hire body guards if she thinks she needs them. If she wants to leave, she can and she will be just fine.
I really don’t care if she stays with him or if he continues to beat her. She’ll either get used to it and learn her place in the world, or she’ll leave him, get lots more publicity and public sympathy and have more material for her music. {That’s me making the assumption that she writes her own songs.}
You amaze me. And no, that’s not a compliment.
That doesn’t surprise me. Nor does it bother me. Thank you.
Sounds like you’ve heard that a lot, huh? Maybe those hundred or so people are right? Ever thought about that fact that it’s illegal to assault someone, regardless of relation or marriage? Archaic is just the word I would use to describe you, perhaps you should look up it’s true meaning. At least you’re part of a dying breed, right?
Archaic does not mean “part of a dying breed.” Perhaps you are the one who should look up the true meaning.
My gawd you are dumb.
TOTALLY TRUE!!!!!!!!!
Please oh please tell me at what point does a wife “get out of hand” enough to deserve a beating?? Is it when his dinner isn’t exactly 70 degrees celsius?, or when she disagrees with him on a small point in front of his boss?, or when she goes down to the supermarket without asking his permission? please elaborate…..
This is just so I know what not to do to incur my future husband’s ‘justified’ wrath!
Oh, and please tell me, at what point does a wife have the right to beat her husband?
As I said, my views are archaic. I know most people are going to disagree with me and that doesn’t bother me. I don’t feel the need to justify myself or my views to anyone. But to answer one of your sarcastic questions, women don’t get to beat their husbands. The men are in charge, not the women. That’s the way it should be.
That’s the way it should be? According to who? Desert people from the Bronze Age, or Dark Ages society?
You’re right, your way of thinking is archaic. It’s also very sexist, and has a whiff of Stockholm Syndrome to it.
I suppose you don’t believe women should have the right to vote, either?
How do you feel about women in the workforce, or women who choose not to get married, or women who work while the husbands stay at home?
No, I’m not being sarcastic. I’m just amazed that anyone can still believe an entire half of the population is inferior just because of the gender they were born into.
I have not once attempted to say that others were wrong for not agreeing with me. I know my views are outdated and so I very seldom voice them. I don’t look down on people for not agreeing with my views and I don’t preach to people in attempts to get them to change. As I’ve explained to other people, my beliefs and my moral code are for me and me alone. To even think that I would try to hold anyone else to those standards is absurd to say the least. If you want to have a career, go for it. If you want to stay single forever, do it. It’s your choice, not mine, and I wouldn’t care one way or the other. I also haven’t once said that women were inferior, but I do think that men and women both have their place in this world and they are not equal.
TROLL ALERT.
Someone having a different view and opinion does not necessarily make them a troll. It simply means that they have a different view of things.
Well, you haven’t EXACTLY said that women are inferior, but by saying that it’s a man’s right to beat his wife if he wants to, you’re implying it. And while I firmly support your right to believe whatever you want as far as your own life goes – after all, who am I to tell you how to feel about yourself? – I get a little twitchy when it sounds like someone is trying to make everyone else fit their views.
Perhaps I read your post with the wrong mindset; I hopped over here immediately after visiting FSTDT, after all.
If I misunderstood, I apologize. But understand that my view is this: while your beliefs may say that it’s okay for men to beat women because they are unequal, there is no physical, sociological or psychological evidence to support that.
And I think I’m done; this subject is wearing on me.
i wont say your opinion is “incorrect”, but is there a point that you recognize where a man should stop? i mean to say, you surely don’t believe that men can kill their wives, correct? and, you are assuming, not in a bad way of course, that all men are reasonable, and will allow their wife freedom, not that “in the bedroom and in the kitchen” stuff, right? just to clarify, b/c i don’t want to assume that you believe something and judge you on an incorrect idea of your beliefs. btw, i think it’s very smart of you to not lower yourself to the point of arguing with the people here, because it wont accomplish anything…
Stockholm Syndrome, or “I wanna be the rare and special snowflake so I’ll say something completely bizarre and offensive to 99% of all thinking people.”.
I see it all the damn time.
Er, no. That’s not what Stockholm Syndrome is.
Or was that a “It’s either A or B” comment? So hard to tell over text.
Either A or B. Sorry ’bout the confusion.
“my views are archaic.”
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Let me help you with that. I can fix it.
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“my views are retarded.”
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There ya go.
Ah, yes, I’ll be sure to remember that the next time someone asks me about my beliefs. Thank you for your staggering display of intelligence and you incredible way with words.
Alysha:
No one precisely asked you about your beliefs, you freely
offered them up with the caveat that the were “archaic.”
You never did
explain what you meant by archaic. Spider had every right to
wonder if you were talking about the stone age, it’s been about
that long since the bigger stick meant the better argument.
When others asked you what crime a woman would have to be
guilty of to be beaten you refused to say. If you are going to
make those kinds of claims, you really are going to
have to give examples. Truly, is it a burnt roast, is it a crying
baby, is it having to work late at the office or store?
You insist that the “men were in charge.” In charge of what
and according to whom. In all the western world and every
representative democracy there is universal suffrage, and
equal rights for every man woman and child. The laws of
battery prevent any one from physically abusing another. No
one may exercise physical ‘charge’ over anyone else.
In any case, if I am bigger than you, or I have a gun and I
tell you that you must obey because “I am in charge.” does
that make my superiority morally acceptable or a
flagrant abuse of physical power?
Political correctness prevents me from directly asking you if
you are the product of an abusive family, but common sense
suggests to me that you are. That you have seen some
unforgivable things in your short life that you should be in
therapy to resolve, before you are badly hurt both physically
and emotionally.
Finally, after having made such outrageous statements,
you really should qualify these strange and unfounded things
that you have attested to in print.
You are correct, no one specifically asked about my beliefs, but I also have not attempted to “fix” anyones views which is why I chose that specific phrasing in my response to slaggingham.
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I was under the impression that the definition of archaic was common knowledge. This, however, is what I mean when I use the word to describe my beliefs:
archaic – marked by the characteristics of an earlier period
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Actually, my response to that question was in the post that for some reason didn’t show up and when I tried to resend it, the site told me that I had already posted that. I really didn’t feel like attempting to reword that post so that I could resend it without the duplication message appearing and hoped that it would show up by now. My response was that it would basically be up to the man and the girl needs to pick a fair man. My statement about the men being in charge was meant to convey how my belief system works, not how the world actually works. Sorry for the confusion.
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I’ve never said that I had specific reasons that I would be able to vocalize – or in this case, type. I’m sure that there certain beliefs that you hold that you would be incapable of explaining coherently to anyone. This is one of mine.
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I don’t agree with “politcal correctness” and I have no problem answering the question that you didn’t ask. No, I’m not the product of an abusive family. No one in my family (immediate and extended to second-cousins) has ever been in an abusive relationship outside of the occasional bad boyfriend who hit someone once and had their butts handed to them by the rest of the family.
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Simply speaking, I think I was just born in the wrong century. As I said, I don’t have any set in stone reasons which is one of the many reasons why I don’t attempt to convert anyone to my beliefs. It would be absurd. However, I do have the right to my beliefs and considering the topic and the response I recieved from whhhat? to my original Ffool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me,” post is what promted me to even bring it up. I have no desire to start some absurd “man power” movement nor do I expect anyone to actually take my views seriously. The only thing that I do expect is for my views to be respected as I respect other’s views.
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It’s completely possible that I’m wrong or that I missed something, but I think I responded to almost everything in your post as best as I can. I realize that I probably haven’t qualified my beliefs, but there really isn’t a way for me to do that. At least, none that I see.
No, you never justified what a woman does to “get out of hand” so as to “deserve” her beating. If you think it’s deserved, then you have to have an example; not just some ‘oh she can do something that deserves a beating, but I don’t know what it is’.
And I quote, “My response was that it would basically be up to the man and the girl needs to pick a fair man.”
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To make that a touch more clear, there are no specific examples that I could give because I’m not a man and I can’t decide what would be enough to deserve punishment.
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I suppose that I should probably mention that the type of “beating” I’m referring to isn’t the within-an-inch-of-their-life type of beating. More of how parents would (and should) punish children that misbehave. Only when you say, “A man has the right to spank his wife,” most people’s minds hit the gutter faster than you can blink.
I’m glad my fiance doesn’t treat me like a child!
He treats me like an equal because we’re partners.
If he laid a hand on me he knows I’d knock his
teeth out, because I have enough self-respect to
protect myself from harm, especially abuse.
@Alysha – You’re equivocating on this.
You think women deserve to be beat, but you don’t know
why. You have no idea what “fair” would be, and you’re
putting the onus on the woman to pick a man who will only
beat her when it’s fair. But you won’t give an example.
If you think a man has the right to beat his wife, then you
should be clear on why. How do YOU know what’s fair?
When you meet men, do you say “At what point do you think
it’s ok to beat me? Oh, that seems fair, I like you.”? That’s
a question no one should have to ask anyone else.
In other words, you have no idea why you believe what you
believe. Perhaps you should examine your beliefs a little as
they seem to stem from ignorance. Which is a classic fallacy.
Nice job.
Let me just say, that when I pick a man who will be fair to me, there is no physical violence involved. I don’t hit him, he don’t hit me. That seems fair.
I’m not equivocating. If I was, I certainly wouldn’t have said that I have no way of qualifying my views. A friend of mine tells me that I’m “neutrally opinionated” in that I have my views and opinions, but won’t force them on people with differing opinions and that I also won’t forcibly negate their views. In my opinion, that’s simply being able to see both sides of the coin. It also means that I’m not passionate enough about a certain topic to try to tear down another’s views.
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I have said that the man is the one who determines the lines because that’s what I believe. If you really want an example, lets do something extreme. The man walks in on his wife sleeping with another man. I’m not a cheater, but if that was to happen, I would certainly expect to be beaten so badly that I couldn’t sit for a week at least! Again, though, it’s up to the man. And once more, I certainly don’t expect for anyone to share my views. These are mine and mine alone. Well, mine and certain men who you would probably term as scum.
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Also, my sense of what is fair seems to differ a great deal from the majority of people. “Fair” is completely subjective.
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My beliefs do not stem from ignorance but from observations of the world in general. My belief is that if men actually took charge like they should, the world as a whole would be a better place. However, I have no real way to explain the “why” of that. That sort of conversation would be like an Atheist trying to get a Bible-thumping, brimstone-and-fire Baptist to explain why he believes in God. There aren’t any answers that would be acceptable to the non-believer and the non-believer already knows that and is simply attempting to either entertain himself or change the views of the believer.
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Syrah – That’s your decision and I don’t have any objection to that. Again, it is *your* decision. I certainly don’t expect my views to make any difference to your views. If they did, it wouldn’t say anything about my views, but merely that you are weak-minded which isn’t good. {Note: I am *not* saying that you are weak-minded. I am saying people whose beliefs are easily swayed are weak-minded.}
And how would the world “be a better place” if men would
“take charge as they should”? What does a man taking
charge consist of? Broad sweeping generalizations don’t help
your case any. If I cheated on my husband, I don’t expect to
be beaten. I expect that he would leave me. As I would leave
him if he cheated on me. Does a woman have the right to beat
her husband if he cheats on her? Or is that part of “taking
charge”, where women are merely objects for men to play
with as they see fit?
Also, telling a woman that she has to pick a fair man, but it’s up to the MAN to decide when he can beat is wife is completely circular. It
opens the door to “Well she picked the wrong man so she
deserves it”, instead of “Well clearly he went to far and
should be punished”. And should men be punished if they go
too far? Or is it just a wash because the woman made a
“bad” choice in her wife beating husband?
“I believe what I believe because that’s the way I am” is the
classic argument from ignorance. It’s nothing like atheism
versus religion because belief in god can only be justified as
“faith”. Someone who believes that one person should have
supreme power over another cognizant adult arguing with
someone who believes in equal rights; well these people can
base their arguments in facts. You have stated no facts.
Argument from ignorance.
faith – belief that is not based on proof
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So, if I said, “I have faith that my beliefs are right,” would your entire argument cease simply because I used the word faith. Any belief can be “justified” by faith including the belief that unicorns live inside your stomach. It might not make it right or true, but if someone has faith that it’s real, then they have every right to believe it.
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I have never once claimed that my beliefs were the “right way” or the “only way” or any nonsense like that. Instead, I have stated several times that my beliefs are my own personal beliefs and I have no desire to even attempt to try to convince anyone that they are right.
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I have never once said that I could “prove” my beliefs or even justify them to anyone else. I have stated already that based on *my* observations of the world, I feel that my beliefs would make the world a better place.
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Claiming that someone is ignorant simply because they cannot find reasons for their beliefs that would make sense to others is ignorant in itself. However, if calling someone ignorant simply because they believe something different than you do and isn’t trying to force her views on you makes you feel better about yourself and you beliefs, then by all means, name-call all you want.
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Shockingly, I enjoyed the “conversation.” My friend and I were talking about this topic the other day (well, not this specific incident, but domestic violence in general) and he and I came to the same basic conclusion that will need to be drawn here. Agree to disagree. Hopefully, everyone is able to keep in mind that people have different beliefs and just because someone voices one that isn’t socially acceptable doesn’t suddenly make them “ignorant,” which is the word of choice it seems.
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Good night.
Your argument is from ignorance. Clearly you are an
intelligent person, but this argument stems from ignorance.
I never asked you to convince me you are correct, I just
want to know where these beliefs come from.
Even the bible thumper can say “Because it’s in the bible”
or “Because my preacher said so” or “Because my parents
taught me so”. “My observations of the world in general” is
not an argument at all, it is a fallback position.
*I* believe, from my observations of the world in general,
that if we all ate skittles for breakfast, lunch and dinner that
everything would be all right and the economy would turn
itself around and there would be no more war. Why do I
believe this? Oh, faith that I am right. Now you are committing
the fallacy of the circular argument. You have no facts, and
your argument has no basis. Not even a “My dad beat my mom
and she says she is a better person for it”, or “My sister gets
beat by her husband and I have seen her become a better
person”.At least THAT argument wouldn’t be from ignorance,
it would be from a specific situation where you witnessed or
heard allegorically that someone became a better person.
Or you could even argue that historically, when
men beat their wives the family unit was more stable,
provided you could come up with examples. But I’m not
here to make your argument for you.
If you believe something, you should be ready to defend it
instead of meekly chanting “I’m not trying to say I’m right or
change your beliefs”. I didn’t ask you to prove me wrong,
nor did I say you can’t believe something. But you need to
have some basis for an argument.
Even the preacher has 2000 years of history to justify his
belief that Christ was the son of God and it is his faith that
those stories are true that keeps him going. But he could
cite me some sources. The validity of those sources would
be subject debate, sure. But at least he has a basis.
You’re still arguing from ignorance. Show me the proof.
Tell me where your observations SHOW that the world
would be better if men beat their wives. Until then, you are
simply arguing from ignorance, begging the question, and
showing your belief system is based on fabrication.
You also show that you can’t have an intellectual debate as
you have not answered the basic questions such as “Is it ok
for a woman to beat her husband”? Or, “How do you
determine what is fair when looking for a man you expect to
beat you?” You can’t even argue the basic points of your
assertion. Perhaps you should consult a debate coach or a
logic professor. Even the “Woman should find a fair man to
beat her, but the man gets to determine what constitutes ‘out
of line’ so he can beat his wife” is a circular argument.
Um… Men “run the show” in Iran and Iraq. I don’t think things are better there than here. They have laws allowing men to beat women for whatever reason the man thinks is justified.
Their societies are also behind the rest of the world in pretty much every way.
You may believe that doing things the way they do is better, and that’s your opinion to have. But have you tried living in a place where you don’t have equal rights, and you’re essentially seen as property? Because that sounds a lot like what you’re advocating… which is fine, if that’s YOUR thing. Heaven knows I have friends who have dom/sub relationships that are very similar.
trollfest!!!!
dont you have anything better to do?
sigh.
Their societies are behind the rest of the world because the US allowed a military dictator to rob them of wealth that would otherwise be theirs. Also, it would brar noting that Iraq is not a religious-run nation, it’s secular (like the US.) She also posted an example of what she means by “beating”, i.e. non-consensual spanking. This was socially acceptable up to the 1950s and early 60s in the US. She’s talking about a practice still fairly common in certain households. It’s called “domestic discipline” and is quire frequently found amongst people into sado-masochism (the kink). You don’t have to agree with it, but most of you oh-so-precious lilies screaming about it are too dense to understand what you’re railing against.
She never explained what constitutes “deserving a beating” or exactly how a woman finds a “fair” man she expects to “beat” her. I challenged her to show me the basis of her argument; not prove she’s right, nor did I say she was wrong. Put that in your lily pipe and smoke it, bitch.Again, she commits the fallacies argument from ignorance and circular argument.
*sigh*
Sorry, she did give an example; cheating.
She DID NOT answer if wives could beat their husbands, nor did she explain where she gets her “observations” that the world would be a better place if men beat their wives.
Seriously, why is it that just because her ideas differ from yours you have to interrogate her? its not like she is attempting to run for public office, or, as she has clearly states several times, convert anyone to adopting her beliefs. if she believes that men should be the dominate figures in society, then so be it. You obviously arent going to change her opinions on the subject, and as i recall, she has every right to believe what ever she wants, regarless as to how rediculous you or i think it happens to be. I am not agreeing that women should be beaten, and i, though you may not believe me due to my arguments in her defence, strongly advocate equality amoungts both genders. So please, give her a break. In most, if not all (i am too lazy to check), countries there are no laws against being stupid (though im not saying she is) and therefore why should you criticize her for being so (in your opinion) as stupidity has no cure… why waste your time? i also have to ask that from here on out, people be more considerate when posting comments on such a touchy topic, as, though i of course cannot be certain, that the origional purpose of this blog was to comment on whether or not one agrees with Chris looking like a douche, not whether or not domestic violence should or shouldnt be legalized, or whether it is morally correct or incorrect.
haha, i’ve got to say, this is probably the worst thing i’ve ever written in my life, sorry about that = |
If someone believes something, they should be prepared to
defend it. Especially if they post it on a comment board, for
all the world to see. She can’t. Or won’t. I didn’t attack her
personally, I said she committed the fallacy of “Argument
from Ignorance”; which is different than blanketly saying
someone is ignorant. BTW “ignorance” is different from
“stupid”. Google it, and the fallacy.
OK…I’m not sure if any of these people in this particular argument are going to read this but I’ve decided to say it anyway. In my opinion, Alysha is mostly correct. I’m going to take a guess and say that she is a Christian. Someone (I’m not going to bother to look back and find out who) stated that she is only basing her opinion on her view of the world in general (or something like that). Well, I just looked it up and Paul says in Ephesians (it’s long but important),
“Wives submit to your husbands as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which He is the Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.” (This is found in Ephesians 5:22-24 NIV)
This, I believe is where the man is the head of the relationship (marriage). However, do think for one second that I believe that a man should beat his wife. In verse 33 of the same chapter Paul says,
“However, each one of you (speaking to the men of the church) also must love your wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband.”
I believe that the man is in charge of a relationship in all instances, but that does not mean that he needs to abuse his authority. On Alysha’s example (a woman cheating on her husband), I cannot say, as I am neither married nor have I ever been cheated on. I can only imagine the woman that I love doing something like that, and I would probably want to hit her. However, I believe that the man, if he truly loved the woman (which would be the only reason he would really truly care) he would not hit her (although I would probably hit the guy…and no that’s not sexist, but I would have to get my frustration out somehow, and since I don’t love him, I’d rough him up a bit).
I also want to clarify a few things so I don’t get a bunch of stupid replies. I do believe that the man is in charge in a relationship, and this belief is founded from Christianity (of which I am a part of). I do not believe in spousal abuse, from the man or woman (yes, women do it too).
Oh, and I read earlier in the thread where people were arguing about whether a man can hit a woman. I’m going to address this. I was raised to never hit a woman (which is strange because feminists don’t mind, but it could be seen as sexist, but that’s another story). However, if some lady kicks me in the family jewels, you better believe that I’m going to try to hit her (this is horrible testimony, but I’m only human, and I think I should tell the truth). Again, to clarify, I’m not saying there is any reason not to kick a man there, but there are very few. Any guy that has experienced this will tell you this. But if some guy comes at you ladies like he’s going to try to rape you or kill you, then (and I can’t believe that I’m saying this) kick away. That’s all I have to say on that.
I know I’m rambling, but I want to go ahead and address feminists. I hate you. I’m sorry, but I do. No, it’s not just because I’m a guy, let me explain. Every, literally, self proclaimed feminist is a hypocrite. True, there may be some out there that aren’t, but I haven’t met one yet. Let me go on and clarify some things before you get too mad at me. I am not sexist, I believe in equality (except in relationships, as I have found biblical evidence that says otherwise, and I haven’t found it for anything else). I am all for women voting and getting equal pay for equal work, and so on and so on. I’m going to use what I was talking about a second ago. From what I have heard from self proclaimed feminists, women should not be beaten. But, it is certainly okay for a woman to hit a man (because she is, as someone put it earlier, “standing up for herself”). This doesn’t sound very equal to me. What really seems equal is that no one should hit anybody, which is what I believe (so, does that make me a feminist, or more importantly, more of a feminists than actual feminists). However, that is not the world we live in. So, equality would mean that a woman can hit a man, and a man could hit a woman (remember, I completely disagree). Another thing, along this example, is when a man catches a woman cheating on him, he can’t hit the woman, but no one really minds if he hits the man. This seems a little sexist (I don’t actually think it is but on average, and I emphasize “on average,” which is not to say that I believe in stereotypes, a man is bigger than a woman. This means the woman may be more frail than the man. This is on average, because I know some women who can take more of a hit than most men, myself included, but again “ON AVERAGE”). I just think the entire feminist movement is hypocritical. But who knows, maybe I completely misunderstand feminists. If I am wrong about feminist philosophy, let me know in a reply. But don’t call me sexist or anything like that. If I am wrong, it’s just because I’m ignorant, not because I’m prejudiced.
This is just what I believe, so don’t pin what I say on all men or Christians or whatever other group(s) I belong to. You can look up the whole “man is in charge in a relationship” thing in Ephesians 5:22-33. If you don’t have a bible, you can find free ones online. Anyway, if you have any questions/comments, let me know. I would love to keep this civilized (or as close to civilized as you can get). I don’t think that I left anything out, but I hope everyone thinks about what I wrote.
There were a couple of typos on my comment, sorry. I meant “do NOT think for one second that I believe that a man should beat his wife”…also I meant “I’m not saying there is not a reason to kick a man there, but there are very few” (freakin’ double negatives get me every time)…
I think that’s all of them.
OMG I pity you. Keep ur “beliefs” to yourself.You suck.
It’s called the First Amendment and unless I’m mistaken,
it means everyone has a right to express their opinions. Unless
you want to destroy the constitution, she can say what she likes.
You don’t have to agree, but you do need to respect her right to
speak freely. If you really think she should “keep her beliefs to
herself” maybe you should go to a country that squelches
individual freedoms when other people disagree or don’t like it,
like China.
Read carefully:IT. IS. WRONG. TO ASSAULT. SOMEONE.Whatever your belief is-Muslim, Christian…preaches against violence of ANY KIND.
Shout louder; a belligerent voice always wins the argument.
What if when a woman is asking for it, such as wearing
provocative clothing but not putting out. Or for those of you
who don’t know what I’m talking about a Dick Tease.
That’s disgusting.
Alysha, I have read through all your posts and, while I don’t agree with your beliefs, nor wish to change them, I do respect your right to your beliefs. However, I want to try to understand where you are coming from so I want to pose a scenario. You start dating a man who in every way seems wonderful. He asks you to marry him, and you have no reason to doubt that he is a good man, so you say yes. Then one day after a tough time at work you end up having dinner on the table 15 minutes after your husband expects it. He decides this is not good enough and gives you a paddling. According to your belief this is acceptable so you take it and stay with him. Then you miss getting the washing off the line and it starts to rain. This leaves your husband without any dry work pants so he beats you again, this time a little harder or a little longer. Then you’ve had another hard day at work and you have to pick up the kids from day care and get them organised. Your husband comes home to a messy house because you haven’t had time to do any housework. This isn’t good enough for him so this time he gives you a full-on slap across the face. You might be thinking, “This isn’t what I signed up for,” so you threaten to leave but he just says, “If you leave, I’ll kill you.” The next day you find he’s taken your set of car keys, then when you try to go shopping your card won’t work and you end up discovering that he’s had your joint bank account transferred into his name only and your card has been cancelled. Now every time you do the slightest thing that your husband doesn’t approve of you get beaten black and blue. You’re constantly living in fear that you are not able to live up to your husband’s expectations, it’s now not a case of ‘if’ you’ll upset him today, but ‘when’, and what started out as ‘fair punishment’ has become full-scale abuse.
I know that might sound extreme but there are women out there who have had worse happen, even ended up dead because they tried to leave an abusive man. And in many cases there was no indication in the beginning that the man would become violent. I guess my points are: 1) there’s no real way of knowing when we choose a husband whether he will become violent in the marriage or not, and there’s no way of knowing when ‘fair punishment’ will become abuse; 2) it’s easy for a woman to say that at the first sign of violence they will leave but a very controlling man can make it difficult and can turn her fears against her; can you say she deserved the continued beatings because her husband wouldn’t let her leave even though she wanted to? What if it were you? Until any one of us has been in that situation we can’t really say what we’d do and even then what we thought we would do could be blocked by the man; 3) we can’t judge a person based on their outward action (or inaction) because we don’t know what’s going on inside their head and we all too often don’t know the full details of the situation.
I wish you all the best in your future relationships, Alysha, and I sincerely hope you do not end up in an abusive one. My final thoughts – you have said, “In my opinion, that’s simply being able to see both sides of the coin. It also means that I’m not passionate enough about a certain topic to try to tear down another’s views.” It’s the passionate people in this world who have brought about all the good change. Lacking the passion about a topic to try to change another’s views is not always a good thing. Also, if you really want to see both sides of the coin, may I humbly suggest spending some time with some women in a domestic violence shelter and get to know their stories. Peace and best wishes for the future.
Y’all are postin’ in a troll thread.
Don’t get it ???
you’re comments are ignorant. I hope you never find yourself in an abusive situation. It is NEVER alright to use ANY SORT of physical, threatening or intimidating behavior in what is supposed to be a loving relationship. It is abhorant that one would ever think it is acceptable. Your comment about men being in-charge is simply too silly to comment upon. I’m sure there is some neanderthal out there with your shared views. Good grief!
“As I said, my views are archaic. I know most people are going to disagree with me and that doesn’t bother me. I don’t feel the need to justify myself or my views to anyone.”
Why the hell are you posting then? You obviously want attention for
the comments you made. Hate to inform you, but where there are
comments on a forum, there are justifications. You know, you
remind me of “Octomom”: telling the paparazzi to leave her alone
while she invites them into her home.
AlyshaDeShae, can I guess that you are a guy? You are one f*ckin asshole.
I want you to be my wife.
The men are in charge. They know what is right better than women, you tell them sister. If a man wants to beat his wife, having determined she has gotten out of line, well then he damn well be allowed to keep her in line! If a man wants to have sex with his daughter, well he’s the patriarch and he probably knows what he’s doing and it probably is for her own good. I know most people don’t agree with me, but I don’t feel the need to change my mind and I’m not too curious why the majority of society is abhorrent of my prospective. Discourse never accomplished anything anyway, beating people–that’s how I get’er done, yeee haw!
LOL.
I am surprised that you are allowed to use the internet, or that you even know that there *is* an internet.
Alysha, please tell me you have not been beaten on a regular basis. You sound like a woman who has been led to believe this is normal, healthy behavior. It is not.
You are certainly entitled you your own views, archac or not, but regardless of what you believe, it is against the law. It took the death of OJ Simpson’s wife before the cops started taking this issue seriously (see my post above about my experience with the police after having been beaten by my ex-husband).
No body NO BODY deserves to be beaten by another for any reason…except self defense. And relationships should be a partnership, not “men are in charge, not the women”. This is NOT the way it should be. Sounds like a religious belief or brainwashing.
true that.
I would also like to know what exactly the parameters are for a wife “getting out of hand”. I’m not saying I agree or disagree … just curious. I’ve honestly never heard a woman have that as a belief.
I replied to you, but my response isn’t showing up. :-/
Thank god.
Most women who have this belief are not allowed to have access to
things like the internet or television. They stay in their compounds
and breed children until they die of exhaustion or their husbands tell
them to commit suicide because God said to.
Hmmm…and I feel sorry for those children.
I would wager a guess that most women who have this belief also didn’t come to the decision on their own outside of any cult-like influences.
Just my two cents – or whatever they’re worth nowadays!
@alysha, I think I can understand your POV; you’ve come to the conclusion that the world would be a better place if men were to take charge. Would one of the pre-conditions be for men to thoroughly understand the concepts of justice, and to have a moral & righteous character? For in order to promulgate justice, one would need to mete reward and punishment as required, and to have those same standards applied to one’s own circumstances.
I don’t think your view is at all archaic, it has been one which has resonated through the ages. In fact, I believe that an age can be determined to be decadent once justice is no longer upheld, where “feelings” and “opinion” hold sway. What comes next, is an emotionfest, with no-one actually saying, “I regret all I have done, I wish to make amends to those I have aggrieved.”
Nothing is anyone’s fault any more. And that promotes abuse, ’cause if you can get away with it once, why not try and get away with more?
It takes an even stronger man to stay his upraised hand, to lower it, and agree yet again, to forgive his abuser, and attempt reconciliation. I fear however, that we are still far from that age!
Again, I applaud you for be reasonable in your comments so far, I think I would have high-tailed it and ran myself.
you know what? I like you and I think you know exactly what you are talking about. Good for you, for not backing down. You make a lot more sence than the rest of these hypocrites who are “assaulting” you with there own convieniently common and one minded media induced ideas.
He’s wrong for allowing his Neanderthal temper take over and
she’s wrong for doing nothing about it (given her assumed
resources).
Anyway, internet arguments are just like Special Olympics…
he says as he argues over the internet…
Yes-that happens a lot in Africa(born&grew up here)in countries like Ethiopia and Sudan-women circumcision also allowed. Lots of rape&abuse cases here in SA-men rencetly beat up a woman bcause she was wearing a mini skirt at a taxi rank.Espec. black men(no Im not racist its true)believe they can do whatever they want to their girlfriend/wife.
Do you think it is ok for a woman to beat her husband if he gets out of line? I personally don’t believe either is right, I am just wondering if you think that it goes both ways, or if only the man is allowed to act out of line.
AlyshaDeShae, Not all opinions are worthy of being respected.
Your opinion is shit.
Period.
Now fuck off.
Love,
A Real Woman
A Real Woman says:
March 27, 2009 at 9:32 pm
AlyshaDeShae, Not all opinions are worthy of being respected.
Your opinion is shit.
Period.
Now fuck off.
Love,
A Real Woman
So what she believes in something you don’t agrre with so it’s shit??? I’m not saying I agree with her but I respect her opinion.
She states she was born in the wrong centuary…that is why she has this belief. Victorian men and those prior that would spank both wives and children, should thay have gotten out of hand. It happened and most today are appalled by that, but do you never think that with all the diversity we have as a race that there would be (and are) people out there who could believe this was an acceptable way of life?
Alysha, altghough I do not agree with what you say, I tip my hat to you for standing up for and following your ideas. In this world so many are led blindly and have no freedom of thought or self-belief (Please note I am not making comment on anyone posting here, it is solely an observation of people I see day-to-day).
The way I see it is ” I have my opinions, they are who I am, if you do not like them it is not my fault or problem. I have no need to justify myself to you. You just have to deal with it or walk away.”
Agreed, except that it is NOT okay to beat someone, male or female, IMO!
“Personally, I’m a bit archaic in my thinking. For the record, yes, I am a girl, and yes, I really do believe what I’m about to say. I feel that men do have the right to beat their wife if they get out of hand.”
I hope your husband beats you for letting his dinner get cold.
you realize in this situation, Rihanna definitely has her own money, her own place to stay and family and friends still hanging around. So yeah, she’s a moron for staying with him and if it happens again, she has no one to blame but herself. In this specific situation, she can definitely leave. Not saying that’s the case all the time and I definitely hear and appreciate what you’re saying but your point has no bearing in this particular case of abuse.
OJ Simpson? Does that case ring a bell? You think that just because they are celebrities, they don’t have control issues that would push them to kill somebody?
yes but whats-her-face left him. so that’s a completely different case. Rihanna stayed with Chris so if he continues to beat her or (goddess forbid) kill her, she’s not completely blameless. She definitely has the means to leave and if she doesn’t, she has serious self-esteem issues.
Yes, “whats-her-face” left OJ, and he STILL killed her. Do you not see a point here? She left, but he still killed her. Did whats-her-face (Nicole, to her family) deserve that? This also reinforces the stat that women are more likely to be killed if they leave.
No one deserves to be murdered. All I’m saying is that’s a different situation. Nicole left and it is tragic that she was murdered but that was absolutely no fault of her own. I’m not saying that if Rihanna (goddess forbid) does get killed that it’s her fault, but it is certainly her fault for not leaving when she obviously has the means to. It saddens me that woman don’t have enough confidence in themselves to leave an abuser. I understand it’s hard when there’s children involved and if the person has no money or nowhere to go, but that isn’t the case here.
It’s not usually a confidence issue that ensure they stay. Usually it’s the terror they experience when they’re threatened by their abuser. They know their abuser is willing to beat them so it’s not hard at all to believe that they’d kill them.
So staying with an abuser is safer? Listen to yourself. She needs to leave.
I’m not saying that at all. I’m merely saying that we need to think things through before we say “she should leave him.” We simply don’t know all the details. It’s easy for us to say, “leave him.” But he may have said, “leave me and I’ll kill you.” … and why would he lie?
Ever heard the term “Keep your friends close, your enemies closer”?
The constant uncertainty and fear and unknowing when gone
is horrifying, versus the mostly OK and calm and once in a
while fear and terror.
I agree that the women need to leave, BUT at the same time, alot of the abusers, will use “I’ll go after your family/mom/kids if you leave. Sometimes it is alot harder to leave when someone says that someone else you love will face the consequences. And the police? Well, a piece of paper (restraining order) wond’t stop a man (or woman) from coming at you. It’s a hard spot to be in. And unless you have been there, it’s hard to speak about.
I agree with you.
I have an example of a woman in Australia who used to be abused by her husband. He threatened to kill her children and “send them back to [her] in the mail bit by bit” if she left him. She managed to leave him, but only by poisoning him and being sent to prison. In some cases it is best to stay until you can be sure he/she wont some after you or your loved ones. Also I’m not saying this woman was right in murdering him, she just felt as though there was no other way.
I’m not sure what the point of my comment was.
Look, as someone who was abused and learned to recognize the
patterns of an abuser, I completely agree that she needs to get
the hell away. I read that he got her flowers and promised he’d
never hurt her again, and all I could think is “He’s going to kill her.”
And, yes, regardless of his record of abuse, he looks like a total douche.
She’s got money and can hire bodyguards and lawyers and anything else she needs to make sure Chris Brown never comes near her again! I get it about the abusive cycles, etc., but most women in that situation have nowhere else to go and get no protection at all. This woman has everything she needs to leave this idiot and yet she goes back to him. Yeah, she’s stupid, and if he beats her up again, or worse, she’ll have exactly nobody to blame but herself. She has the means to GET THE HELL OUT, which most battered women don’t have. She voluntarily took him back!
Ok, I can understand a woman who might be far from home, disowned by her family, etc.
But Rhiana has the capabilities to get away from Chris Brown. If she gets beat again by him, I wont feel sorry for her.
Please, there are shelters and agencies that all they do is help women out of an abusive relationship. And if a women is with a man who cuts off her friends and family from her….shouldn’t that be a sign that this guy is no good for you. People need to think with there heads and not with there hearts and naughty bitts! Just because they find a man hot and attactive and so “sweet”, if he is starting to control your life in the early stages and you stay that is a dumb move! Plain and simple!
there are shelters for that exact reason… but yes.. stay with him.. whats one more black eye? you didnt need that tooth… my advice.. get out and get help… report it to the cops… and put an end to it.. sure if you just leave and move in with your family 3 blocks away, your going to get found, but if you get help, they will try to make sure he cant get you…
OR she didn’t leave because she was afraid that the result for leaving would be WORSE than if she didn’t leave.
Ever think about that? No of course you didn’t, because you need a brain-mouth filter.
I’m going to take a wild stab in the dark and guess that you weren’t a multi-millionaire who could afford to have any type of life you wished to have when you were in your abusive relationship. But if you were, and you still stayed with your abuser, then you are just as retarded as Rhianna. Anyone choosing to stay in this type of relationship needs to grow a fucking spine and stop wallowing in the role of victim. Just wait til he kills her, and then we can watch the exorbitant amount of taxpayer dollars that will be wasted on a circus of a trial.
I say we all chip in and buy Rhianna a copy of “What’s Love Got To Do With It” so she can fast forward to the last 30 minutes of the film and see what she’s supposed to do.
Right — because nobody with money is ever screwed up. It is impossible to be victimized or make a bad decision if you have money. And victims are “retarded.” Nice.
A woman is 75% more likely to be KILLED by her batterer if she LEAVES than if she stays.
link?
http://www.safehavengw.org/dviolence/facts.shtml
I was off a little about the statistic, but the point stands that women are more likely to die if they leave. Here’s the link. Now, will you actually pay attention? In all probability, this was not a one-time punch. This was a long time coming, following him tearing her down enough to make her believe she needs him. Batterers are almost brilliant in their systematic abuse.
no where in that link does it support any of your facts. Show me exactly where it states they’re more likely to be killed if they leave. I searched the whole website and there’s nothing even remotely close to supporting what you said.
UNDER MYTH #4… you really can’t read, can you?
“Battered women are eight times more likely to be killed or injured leaving their abuser than they are living with him.”
That’s so sad that you “searched” the entire thing and couldn’t find it.
my apologies. I definitely missed that. Completely my fault.
still no reason to hurl insults though.
safehavengw.org/dviolence/facts.shtml
I am willing to bet that even the douchebag isn’t idiotic enough to kill her. If he did, it would be his career that dies faster…People already hate him for this, so it’d be a lynching for sure…
OJ Simpson?
Whitney Houston
Tina Turner
Humphrey Bogart
Steven Hawking
That’s 4 celebs off the top of my head who have been abused, left, and live to tell the tale.
By the math in that stupid stat you should now be able to tell me 32 celebs who left and were killed by their abuser.
So far you have listed one, I’ll wait while you try to google up 31 more.
Stephen Hawking was abused?
Sorry, I can’t come up with names of celebrities. but I CAN come up with names of many many women with whom I have worked as a domestic violence shelter social worker. Women who have tried to leave, and their abusers tracked them down years later, either gunning them down, their children, or parents, etc. Sorry, I can’t name celebrities. You can, though, and good for you, sweetie.
I would also be hesitant to compare those women I have worked with “stupid stat”… Look outside yourself a little bit. Who knows? you might learn something.
You are using the exception as the rule. If you seriously work abused women then I hope you are actually tell them to leave and are not hiding behind this stupid stat.
If it really is as bad as 8 times as likely then it shouldn’t be hard to tell me
a whole bunch of celebs who were abused, left and were later killed.
If I can name a bunch who were abused and left, then it only stands to reason 8 times that number were killed. Surely we would have heard about them right? Come on, there has to be more than OJ.
Yes, stupid stat. Unless of course you can tell me where SafeHaven came up with that number. Just because it’s on their website doesn’t make it true.
Most reliable stats site the source.
Again, I am not in keeping up in the world of celebrities. I am too busy being a social worker and trying to help others. You, however, have lots of time to keep up with celebrities, and good for you, dear. So much so that you apparently have no time to learn proper English. Be that as it may, no, I certainly don’t tell the women to stay with their abusers. I NEVER said I did. What I am merely saying is that women have to be so incredibly careful when they do leave, because if they are not careful it could make the situation infinitely worse. Not that you would be able to comprehend something like that. You think women are just “stupid stats”
Sorry hon, I think you might be a little confused. See, I think the safehaven stat is made up, therefore I find it stupid. One could even carry that name over to the people who believe it. Not that I would ever call you a stupid twat, but if the shoe does happen to fit…
Also, you see to be rather knowledgable about OJ, and you are on here spouting off in a thread about chris brown, so I assume you have some familiarity with the outside world. So, I’ll ask again. If you stand behind the “8 times more likely” stat, why can’t you name anybody other than OJ? I’ll even make it simple. We can pretend that Whitney Houston (you’ve heard of her right?) is the only celeb who was in a publicly abusive relationsip. So I challenge you to either find 7 more celebs who left and were killed or STFU.
Oh, I guess I was wrong ealier, I will call you a stupid twat. Stupid twat.
Phil Hartman was abused and killed. That chick that hooked up with Sid Viscious was abused and stabbed to death. And what was the name of that guy that had his wife shot outside a restaurant? Robert something I think. And that wrestler killed his whole family, with reports of prior abuse surfacing afterwards.
There are four right there. Oh, and Natalie Cole was also in an abusive relationship, but wasn’t killed… hm…
Jenna, I think you are made up, therefore I find you stupid.
did it say anything about celebrities standing apart from other people? I don’t think so. So it might actually be that those other seven just weren’t celebrities and whhhat? can’t name them because of that.
@ pfft: My thoughts exactly. And so sad to see the names
of those who’ve had to suffer.
@ Jenna: Stats or no stats, the fact remains that notability
and wealth can’t buy you peace of mind, erase emotional baggage, or make a person not be a victim.
Abuse is more than a clenched fist; it’s a state of mind as
bequeathed by one’s oppressor.
Oh, and by the way…
“If it really is as bad as 8 times as likely then it shouldn’t be hard to tell me
a whole bunch of celebs who were abused, left and were later killed.
If I can name a bunch who were abused and left, then it only stands to reason 8 times that number were killed. Surely we would have heard about them right?”
The statistic was that “battered women are eight times more likely to be killed or injured leaving their abuser than they are living with him”,
*NOT* 8 times as many abuse victims are killed for leaving.
Correlation (leaving increases the risk) , not causation
(leaving equals death), bb.
Additionally, the actual statistic mentioned injury as well as
death being results, so naturally you can’t count deaths
that haven’t happened yet.
Also, you seem to be omniscient, as you surely know of every single celeb’s experience with abuse, whether or not they’ve ever disclosed it. Congrats!
In conclusion, your maths/argument/personality = FAIL.
I believe the stat says, “Battered women are eight times more likely to be killed or injured leaving their abuser than they are living with him.” Anyone who knows anything about probability and statistics would realise that this doesn’t have to include any celebrities to be true. Take this simple example: in a town live 1000 women of whom 10 are celebrities. One of them has an abusive marriage. Of the other 990 women, 80 live in abusive marriages. Of the 81 women in total who have abusive marriages, 9 have stayed with their abuser and lived. The other 72 have left their abuser who has later found them and either killed them or put them in hospital with critical injuries. In this case there were not 8 times as many celebs who were killed or critically injured in the target sample of ‘women with abusive marriages’, however the number of women who left and were killed or critically injured (72) was still 8 times the number of women who stayed and weren’t killed (9). Whether this stat applies to the target sample group of ‘celebrities with abusive marriages’ remains to be seen. Maybe someone could do a study …
Jenna,
You do realize that celebrities who have been abused have resources available to them that the average woman does not. Our society doesn’t treat celebrities the way that they treat everyone else. The police would pay more attention to their complaints, they have the money to hire someone to protect them, the money to hire a lawyer to prosecute, etc.
But since you are so interested in celebrities involved in death from or because of abuse, here are a few:
Dorothy Stratten (model/actress in the 80’s). Killed by estranged husband
Dominique Dunne – (Actress) Killed by ex-boyfriend.
Phil Hartman (Actor) Killed by wife when he tried to leave her.
Nancy Benoit (Wife of Wrestler) Killed by husband who she had previously filed for divorce against claiming abuse.
Why would they have to be celebrities? I’m sure at least 32 regular people would have been killed or beaten to within and inch of their life for leaving their abusers.
Also, I’m not the stupid Jenna who is asking for 31 celebrities names, I’m the radical Jenna who actually makes sense.
I don’t know, he was idiotic enough to cause some serious injuries, bleeding in the mouth, punching her WHILE DRIVING, almost made her pass out. I’d say that was pretty idiotic.
And 80% of statistics are made up…so what! I left my abuser and I lived to tell about it. BTW…he is also a douche.
80% of stats are made up? I have a feeling you made that up. In a way you are right… that stat is based solely on the number of reported and solved murders. It’s probably higher than that.
And good for you. You got away. You were lucky.
i concur! i left and i live to tell the tale!
it’s a damn shame this happened. but for god’s sake, she’s a cover girl!
it’s amazing she hasn’t lost contracts as well. it’s a terrible example of what to do
in an abusive situation!
I managed to leave my abuser after two years…the only reason I didn’t leave him sooner was because I was scared to death of him! But I did eventually get away, and I’m now married to the man of my dreams and have a beautiful daughter…two things I never would have had if I stayed with him any longer.
It’s unbelieveable scary when you want to leave someone who abuses you on a daily basis. I waited until he left for work one morning, then just packed everything into my car and left. I never told him where I went, I had a new job all set so he couldn’t find out where I worked, I blocked him from my email and instant messaging lists…and the only time I ever see him is when I have to go grocery shopping at Wal-Mart and see that he’s now working as a loser cashier, after he claimed that my life would be shit without him and that he would always be better than me. HA! Too many times I’ve resisted the urge to just get in his face and rub all of the good things I have in my life into it. Nobody ever deserves to be abused, and the abusers will ALWAYS get what’s coming to them in the end.
You just made me remember something….when I left my abusive husband 30 years ago, I had young kids and didnt want them to overhear me talking badly about their father, so I gave him the nickname “Gil”. When talking about him to friends or family with the kids around, I would say Gil instead of his name. Why Gil, you ask. Short for Massengill Douche. True story. lol If the douche fits…
So you recommend she stays with her abuser?
But of course. It is much better to stay at home and have the snot kicked
out of you everyday than leave and take a chance at freedom.
Give me liberty or give me death is fine, unless you are a woman. Real
women should stay home and play the part of the punching bag.
Seriously though, that stat sounds like something the people at Safehaven
made up to discourage divorce.
http://www.mincava.umn.edu/documents/factoid/factoid.html
How’s that? Is that reliable enough for you? I never said that women should stay with their batterers. I’m merely making a point that “just leaving” is not always so simple. Simply leaving could make things so much worse if she is not extremely careful about it. And our justice system being what it is, it just does not cater to the needs of DV survivors. I know. I hear the cops talking when they bring in clients. But, as per usual, people like you, on the outside of things, just assume it’s so easy to leave. I could post a thousand links and tell you a thousand stories about the women I’ve worked with, but you wouldn’t listen. You don’t want to.
I think I’m going to need you to cut and paste the part on that website that backs up your statement.
Near as I can tell it’s just a webpage diputing myths, like the one that says, “Women Who Leave Their Batterers Are at a 75% Greater Risk of Being Killed by the Batterer than Those Who Stay”
That link acknowledges that it is more dangerous for a woman to leave, even if the 8 times more likely is a bit exaggerated. I could post 1,000 more links that prove it’s more dangerous to leave along with 1,000 other stats, but I won’t because I know you won’t want to look that them because you don’t want to listen to the point I’m trying to make. You just don’t want to hear it.
Again, the point I’m trying to make is that I’m not saying she should stay. I am simply saying it’s a lot more complicated than “just leaving.” Do you think it is at all possible for you to wrap your head around that concept? I may not know much about the “outside world,” but you obviously don’t know much about the REAL world. And as “pfft” pointed out, Phil Hartman, Sid Vicious, the star of Baretta who killed his wife, and the wrestler who killed his family..
even if the 8 times more likely is a bit exaggerated.
you admitted the 75% fact you spouted out was wrong
now THIS fact from the website is “a bit exaggerated”
how about you provide some real facts before running your mouth off about something you obviously know nothing about? And how ’bout knockin’ off the condescending remarks about how people obviously can’t read or don’t care enough to learn the facts…because obviously you don’t know the facts either. and this is supposed to be your line of work?! you must be the best *eye roll*
take a hike.
Hi. You’re a dick. It doesn’t matter what the exact percentage is, the fact remains that it is more dangerous for a woman to leave. Period. Even if it was 1% more dangerous, that’s still too much. Yes, it IS my line of work, and yes, I know MUCH more about it than you even care to think about. Have a nice day, toots.
Yes, of course she should! After all, she probably Googled the statistics, found that that Chris Brown was MORE likely to kill her if she left him, and decided that she had to stay for her own well-being! I mean, DUH! It only makes sense when you look at the facts!
And are most of those women multimillionaires who can hire bodyguards and top of the line security? Well, Rihanna is, and she can. She just won’t.
She’s a grown-up, with more than enough $ to be o.k. without him.
She has my empathy, ’cause loving someone that would hit you is sad,
but if he does it again it’s because SHE LET HIM.
If you have the ability to get out, like Rihanna does, then you are foolish for sticking around. There have been situations in which a person cannot leave because they have nowhere else to go. I feel for that person and hope the best for them. People like Rihanna who get the shit kicked out of them by someone who ‘loves’ them and then goes back to them when they are perfectly capable of telling them to sod off… deserve whatever comes at them. If you’re foolish enough to be taken in by this ‘charismatic’ person then you have no one to blame but yourself. Charismatic? Really? He beat the hell out of you… that is more than enough for anyone with any shred of intelligence and self-respect to get the hell out of that relationship.
I think she deserves it, too, and I have been in an abusive relationship as well. In fact, I’ve beaten most of my girlfriends so I know a thing or two about a thing or two when it comes to abusive relationships.
See what I did there?
You acted like a troll?
Or he made the point that the only people agreeing that the victim /ever/ deserves to be physically injured are acting like abusers themselves.
ohhh circular argument with a bite.
I’m with you. These people obviously don’t know what the hell they’re talking about. You can’t know really. Not until you have been there. The manipulation… the threats… the constant putting you down… convincing you that you have nothing without them. That nobody else will ever love you. That you deserve what they do to you.
It’s never a simple “he hit me, I’m leaving.” There’s so much emotional baggage they throw on the victim. He has control of her now.
I just want you to know, I get it.
What ^ said.
Most people here at the Lolz sites really don’t know anything about REAL abusive relationships, hence all the “lol she deserves it” comments. That is a good things, it’s sad anyone should have to understand how abusive relationships go.
Abusive boy/girlfriends/spouses work their victim down slowly. It’s NEVER just a “they hit me once, I’m out”. The victim will always be made, by the aggressor, to think that they deserve everything, that they’re worthless to everyone else but the aggressor, that they are stupid, clumsy and unlovable and the aggressor is there to save them and take care of them.
If it’s hard for a multimillionaire singer to part from an abusive relationship, think of what it’s like for normal people in them.
Oh yeah, and Chris Brown is a giant douche.
Seriously?? The problem here, is a complete lack of self-respect and self-esteem in the abused. You should never let someone think they are everything. I’ve had a boyfriend punch me and touch me when I didn’t want him to…you know what he got? A kick in the balls and spit in the face. No way in hell would I let someone make me feel like less of a person. CONFIDENCE people! This is ridiculous…
PS – not saying that a victim deserves what they get at all (of course they don’t) men and women that beat the people they “love” should be sterilized…I just wish more abused people (women especially) had more confidence and could realize what they DESERVE
It’s not that easy. Tonnes of people who’ve never been in an abusive relationship have low self-esteem or low self-confidence. If it was so simple a problem to fix, do you really think it would still be a problem?
Zing!
Make that zing a double!
Seriously though, she is not the first woman with a career, money,
notoriety, etc. to be abused, and sadly, won’t be the last.
How is it that so many commentators here seem to hold fast to the idea
that if someone becomes victimized they
a.) had it coming b.) don’t matter c.) are weak, pathetic, idiots for staying.
zomg!one1!!
Oh wait, you’re up on the internet (where logic & empathy come to die), not actually living other people’s lives!
Abuse is subtle and insidious. It DOESN’T care who you are or what you do.
And it’s not just the abuser who strips a victim’s resolve away–
it’s those who implicitly or overtly support the abuser and/or
marginalize the victims, keeping them that much more silent about it.
But none of us would ever do that, amirite?
Sometimes we get hot tempered and will say something or do something in the heat of the moment, Like make a off handed remark about our SO mother or what have you and as reaction we will “bitch slap” the person. This is what old movies are made of. I am going to get “bitch slapped” for this comment but that is NOT what an abusive relationship is metal or physical. If you get “bitched slapped” and you walk away, well I would have too.
metal and psychical (and physical usually involves mental too) is more than sjust getting “bitched slapped” it is the tearing down of the self, so yes, she had lack of self-respect and self-esteem, that is what abusers DO, so when the physical act or the psychological incident happens they are so low with idea of self that they stay.
I’ve tried to post 2 times now and it now showing up.
People get hot tempered say or do things in the heat of the moment. If that happens and you walk away good, you walked away from a potentially abusive relationship. But I wouldn’t call it an “abusive” relationship, just the potential for an abusive relationship.
When you’ve been so mentally emotionally psychologically abused that you of no sense of self anymore and THEN a major abusive incident occurs, come back tere and tell us how strong you are.
You have to take into consideration that there are alot of children that are abused by their parents and are already convinced that they are worthless and derserve nothing less than what they get. Lots of dads (and moms) that beat and berate their children, raising them to be insecure and not confident.
Not everyone was raised to be confident, strong, or have self worth. It’s VERY sad, but also VERY true.
I personally don’t believe that Rhianna has a confidence problem, considering the line of her work and the amount of confidence I would think it requires (I could be wrong), and I think it would be easy for her to leave. BUT, I don’t live her everyday life, and I don’t know what she deals with on an ongoing basis. None of us can pretend to know these women, unless you have been there yourself.
I have been in an abusive relationship as well. Lucky for me and unlucky for him, I was raised to be confident and strong, and that if it ever came down to “him or me”, it’s sure as hell wasn’t going to be me. That said, I can only imagine if I had gotten a different message from my parents growing up. Walk a mile in their shoes folks, it’s really easy to SAY what you would do.
I dunno how you feel about random people saying this to you, but
I’m so proud of you for getting out of that situation okay!
How good for you to grow up a strong person.
*hug*
Regarding the confidence– I think that some people here are
misinterpreting stage persona/presence for confidence.
Many celebs are very different in person, despite what the current
gossip rags say.
Aren’t we all different people depending on who we’re around, anyway?
Might I suggest that some celebrities could actually be some of the most insecure people in the world. Just a suggestion, but could they not be celebrities because they are so insecure about themselves that they want the approval of others to make them feel good? And what better way than to become a celeb and get kudos from millions of people. Not saying either that I think Rhianna has a confidence problem, I just don’t necessarily believe that because a celeb is a celeb and in ‘that line of work’ that they can automatically be assumed not to have a confidence problem.
Hear, hear. I was raised in a household where domestic violence ran rampant. My mom would yell, shout and cuss out my dad, who’s just sit there and take it and when she was done, she’d do her work on me. Part of it is because (I think this might be the case) I was different from most kids my age because I was a) autistic and b) couldn’t learn how to speak until I was 5-6 years old. The result was an autistic kid who believed that violence was the way of the world and had no sense of self.
For those who think I was asking for this mental abuse, in which ways was I asking for it? I was barely able to speak and I got a spiel on how it was my fault for being born, that I was a mistake, and how everything going wrong in her life was my fault.
Now, I’m a 21 year old chick who has gotten her life somewhat back together, I have a sense of self even though I’ve been through more traumatizing experiences than what I’ve described and I feel sorry for those who have, are, and will go through what I’ve described. Not everyone has the strength to run away. It took my dad until I was 10 to tell my mom that he won’t take it any more and that she should stop or there’s the door. Best day of my life followed by the divorce.
Feel free to flame me or call me an idiot, but this is just a small chapter of my story and I’ll stick to it.
Have a nice and wonderful day!
~Gregora
You just told my story…in a nutshell.
Agreed. All the victim-blaming in this thread is DISGUSTING.
Everyone is susceptible to being a victim, and being a repeated victim.
Sry, not me.
I tend to realize when a foreign object is headed toward my skull. Not going to happen, not once. And especially not ‘repeatedly’.
BTW, I have no idea who this douche is.
I sum up. He’s a rap star who rides on people’s laurels, and he decided to throw his girl friend out of a moving car. That’s more or less the story.
Except the car wasn’t moving- because she had thrown the keys out the window…
Which doesn’t mean he was in the right by any means. She hit him first- still doesn’t make what he did right.
I think both of them need help with anger issues.
If you’re stupid enough to stay, you deserve it…and yes, I have been abused. He hit me once, I called the police and ACTUALLY pressed charges and left the SOB- wow, what a concept.
It seems fairly obvious that you didn’t have much emotional baggage or time with this man, or else you would have stayed. For ANYONE who has been in a very long relationship and is then degraded and beaten, they want to stay with their S/O.
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Long story short: No one, which means NO ONE, even a victim of abuse who stays in the relationship, deserves to be hit. EVER. Anyone who says otherwise is a horrible person, plus an idiot.
I don’t think anyone is saying she DESERVES to be hit but she is no longer blameless in this situation should it repeat itself.
There are tons of people saying exactly these words, “she deserves to get hit”… Do you have the ability to read?
any particular reason you’re resorting to 12 year old little girl insults? All I was saying is that I don’t think anyone is really saying she deserves to be abused but that’s the way it’s coming out. I could be wrong, but that’s how I’m seeing it.
PS – you’ll have a bit more respect from people if you keep things mature. If you start hurling insults, all of the facts you stated above become obsolete. Just saying….
You’re right. Having worked with domestic violence survivors and their children, I just get a little peeved when people start spouting off about how they “deserve” it or that they are “to blame” if they stay with the guy, all the while knowing absolutely nothing about domestic violence in general. I guess it’s because when they don’t know anything about the subject, they act like 12 year old girls, and you know what they say… you get what you give.
I definitely understand your frustration, especially since you’ve worked with victims. I have nothing but respect for you for that. I am certainly not saying anyone “deserves” to be abused in any way, shape or form but if you have the means and the ability to leave and you don’t, you’re no longer blameless in the situation. I’m not saying she’s to blame for what happened to her, but she is to blame for allowing it to keep happening (only because I KNOW she has money of her own and people around her that can help). Does that make sense?
And I wasn’t trying to be rude, I was asking an honest question. Judging by the fact that I provided a link, you still couldn’t find the part where stats show women are more likely to die if they leave. I was just asking a question… it just doesn’t seem like you either have the ability to read, or the concern. I’m guessing it’s the latter.
you know what they say about assuming things.
stop questioning my ability to read. that’s just ridiculous.
grow up
whhhat…..You seem to be very hostile and agrey toward people and do not seem to be able to hold an adult conversation with out throwing in insults that have nothing to do with the discussion. Women or men who are in abusive relationships do need to take a risk and get out, and if the abuser comes after them then they need to CONTACT THE POLICE! That is what they are there for! And please do not go and say how they do not help, because I work in law enforcement and directly with the cops. It is NOT ok to stay in an abusive relationship, it is bad for the person mentally and physically and if there are children involved, shame on the person for staying (I stand behind that statement), it is horrible for kids to watch abuse and will cause no end of problems for them in there lives. So instead of continuing to say the same thing over and over again and then get rude with people, maybe you can think of that and stop the crap!
inked_hippie…..I agree with the fact that if a women stays after one insident of abuse she has some part to play in it continuing. It is not her fault, but she needs to learn to be strong for herself and any children involved!
Stockholm Syndrome, it happens. Sadly.
or else I would have stayed??? WOW. No. I was with him for quite a while before he hit me. You are all a bunch of enablers. There are plenty of warning signs before the physical abuse starts, and plenty of safe places to go when it does start…leave or die…. I chose to leave and live.
Well, congratuations on being a better person than those with low self-esteem. Obviously, their issues with their self-worth are right.
Long story short; self-respect. ftfy
I don’t think everyone is susceptible to being abused. There are those of us out there who are mean enough/have mean enough family members that anyone who ever tried to hurt us would be hurt ten times as bad. I honestly believe that with the way I have been raised, no one I’m in a relationship will ever raise their hand to me without being so sorry for it later that they never do it again.
That said, I don’t think people who are abused deserve it, and I don’t think Rhianna(sp?) deserves it, regardless of how much money she has. Being abused/getting out of an abusive relationship isn’t a matter of monetary resources (though I’m sure money helps). It’s a matter of emotional/psychological resources more than anything. Or just saying “oh f*ck no!” and buying a shotgun (and knowing how to use it). And I’m not joking with that last bit
I’d like to tack onto the end of my first paragraph the sentence–”Not that he’d ever get the chance to do it again.” And to clarify that by being “sorry for it” I don’t mean he’d say “Oh, honey, I’m sorry”. I mean he’d be screaming “Please! Please don’t cut my d*ck off with garden shears”. Whether I’d be holding the garden shears or my daddy would, however, I don’t know.
hopefully those shears were dull and rusty…
I second that
Oh, definitely.
Yay, tetanus!
yea for having family and friends. some of us don’t
Shame on you for calling someone “retarded”. Where is your political correctness?? The comment was they deserve each other. NOT that she deserves to be beat up. From what I’ve heard, they’ve done it to each other. So there you go, they deserve EACH OTHER. Get over it.
Thanks Cierra-you took the words from my mouth. I’d also like to add th following factors that makes people (mostly women) stay in abusive relationships: They came from an abusive family and they think it’s normal. They are afraid that if they leave, they or their children will be harmed. Thy don’t have support from their families in the outside world and they are ashamed to talk about it. Especially because of people like cosmo.
I agree that she did not deserve what happened to her in the first incident.
But I now longer feel sorry for her. After she has gone back to that abusive individual she deserves whatever comes next. I hope and pray that he changes and she gets a wonderful life full of happyness. But if she gets another beating like or worse than the one before I won’t shed a single tear for her.
That’s why it comes in a twin pack.
agreed totally
Holy crap! Separated at birth!!
OMG, funniest thing I’ve ever seen!
You must have a boring life…
The Summers Eve has an actual legitimate use, unlike the douche on the left. Pisses me off the he has my name.
Ooh, ouch. Must suck for you!
Epic*Win
I agree. total epic win. SRSLY the rest of you need to lighten up. this is a joke. He was a DB before the Rhianna incident, and he will ALWAYS be a talentless DB regardless of WHOM he is in a relationship with. I think she should leave because she could do better. *hopping off soapbox*
Wait, there’s a third. Cierra, the poster that can’t take a joke.
You’re a dickhead and should die in a fire. Hah, just kidding.
Some “jokes” aren’t funny and you should be old enough to detect which belong to that group. If you can’t than better live with people bashing you because of your stupidity.
*then, ffs
As should you. Get the stick out of your arse and get a life. Not everything is meant to be so serious. Sheesh.
And some things just aren’t funny. At all.
Lies! Everything is funny. I for one find immense joy in the tears of butthurt people.
Just so you know, Cierra wasn’t saying anything about the Look-Alike itself. She was commenting on some idiotic person saying Rihanna deserved to be abused.
If you ask me, there are two Chris Brown douches that I can see on this page…
*Erases first paragraph, noticing that SunCloud already stated it* But I stand by my fact that there are two very huge Chris Brown douche bags on this post.
Two things…
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A pic of a giant douchebag/azzhole/monster would be a better look-alike for Chris Brown. But I’m too lazy to try & find one, assuming one exists.
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Secondly, in defense of Cierra, she never said the look-alike wasn’t amusing. She was responding to the comment that Rhianna deserves to be abused. BIG difference there Chris Brown (No, the other one)!!
I’m sorry, the Saving Us From Ourselves Moral Invervention Forum is two web pages down. If she wants to preach, she can find an audience there.
TOUCHE, Chris, well said.
Well played, sir.
Only difference is I would never put Chris Brown in my vajoo.
Well played ma’am!
This could not be more appropriate and apt! Well played, sir or madam, well played.
if i had to be with rihanna or w/e her name is, id hit her too
Yes, I’m so sure that Rihanna is way below your standards. She does have very sharp knees after all.
yeah, shes black
Yeah, you’re white.
OMG!!!! WTF!!!!
Yeah, I agree with most of the comments.
Chris Brown is a douche…..big time.
Rihanna is stupid for going back to him…..
She has the money and resources to go anywhere she wants.
Apparently she wants him to hit her again.
But, WHAT ON EARTH DOES COLOR HAVE TO DO WITH IT?
take your racist ass back to 1892
Troll! *Throws into the BOG*
bog! not the bog! i be a good goblin thingy mr. goblin king ma’am!
So this guy’s a douche. we get it. moving on…he looks like a little kid…lets wrap him up and give him to michael jackson!
LOL! Bonus points.
their identical twins!! he’s such a jerk
i can’t tell them apart? which one cleans vaginas and which one thinks it’s ok to hit women?
the one on the left hits women, you use the one on the right after hittin’ it,
This it unfair to a totally useful product.
They should have put up a pic of the old style douchebags…now thats much more of a resemblance
win
This isn’t a lookalike…it’s a redundancy
He looks like a douche because he is a douche.
It’ll be sad when we hear about Rihanna’s death at his hands.
It’s inevitable.
I don’t get it …
Hm… Is this a troll, or just a moron? Let’s hold a vote!
moronic troll
could be neither…I didn’t know about the whole Chris Brown/Rihanna thing until about a week ago.
Come on now, that person isn’t a moron for not following celebrity personal lives. Maybe s/he is too busy living their own life and not getting in other people’s business!!
nicely said
Win!
This is way too amazing…
its so true..
You people are so ridiculous. Everyone is spending so much time and effort talking about how Chris Brown is a douche and how Rhianna may or may not deserve what she’s going through. Why isn’t anyone thinking about how this happens all the time to people everywhere? I’m not saying to shrug it off, but people are more shocked and outraged that this has happened to a famous woman than they would be if it was happening to their neighbor or a family member. Seriously, this is just one account out of millions and still no one is considering how common this really is. Maybe instead of arguing over who deserves what with the Chris/Rhianna deal, why not try and help victims that you already know and might already need your help to get out of that vicious cycle?
Yes, Chris is a douche, but so is most of the population in their own way.
but he fails moar cause he’s getting away with it
People get away with shit like this all the time even though others who disapprove know.
this.
Violet: you have some really good points. The reason everyone is talking about the Chris Brown/Rihanna situation is because that’s the picture that’s above so we’re all kinda focused on that exact situation. I completely understand what you’re saying and totally agree with you, especially your statement of “even though other who disapprove know”.
What I said “everyone is talking about it”, the point wasn’t restricted to this post. Here, it kinda makes sense to stay on their relationship as a topic. I was referring to people in general. Just to clarify.
Ah. I get it. I agree with you that this is all over the news and everyone seems to be talking about but there’s no mention or talk of the abuse that happens everyday among people not in the public eye.
Could happen that this situation might open some people’s eyes that this could happen to anyone and something should be done about it. *fingers crossed*
Yeah, I used to help out with abuse interventions. You know, getting people out of bad situations, setting them up with places to stay, intervening if and when the abuser came after them. (Mmm, violence!)
But there really needs to be a much more concerted and funded effort to do those kinds of things. I was just a part-time volunteer and we couldn’t help many people. I alwaws say if I ever win the powerball I’m going to found the “militant arm” of RAINN.
I eventually got into a relationship with an abuse victim and we’ve spent the last 10 years working throough her problems. People who say “just get out,” like it’s easy have NO idea what they’re talking about.
It’s not easy. But get out. Glad your significant other did.
I agree, but it’s also a matter of who you care about. Also, they don’t know what it’s like when it happens to someone they’re close to. (btw, I don’t really know what happened between these two, nor do I care. Though it’s probably sad)
Its simply because they’re famous and everyone puts celebrities up on pedestals. So when something like this happens its considered a big deal. Besides….that neighbor two houses down isnt plastered all over tv for the world to see and make a fuss over. It’s sad how things work….
So simple, yet so fucking funny.
Good one they certinanly do look a like
Good one they certinly do look a like
No, you still spelled it wrong.
Haha, fail for spelling it wrong twice and fail for separating the word “alike” in both comments. You sir, fail indefinetly.
people need to get over this. help the people in your own backyard. chris brown’s life is none of our damn business.
“Humanity should have been my business!”
You ask any abuser, they’ll say that their lives are “none of your business” too. So will the victims, a lot of the time.
i guess what i meant was, people are more concerned with celebrities and their failings than they are their own neighbors or family members. many of the same people who think this is such an injustice would not put forth the same effort to rescue their own family members if they saw them in the same situation. i simply meant, fix the problems at home before being so concerned with the problems of celebrities.
Hear hear, stuff.
Am I the only one who thinks this TLL is stupid? All the ones I’ve seen before here are visually similar (except one about the stock market and a train crash); this one is purely an unimaginative attempted zing on a celebrity I’d never heard of before this story started parading around the ‘news’. I actually spent a minute trying to see the physical similarity before realizing there wasn’t one (except maybe how the top of his hat looks like the top of the plungers).
amen and thank you for taking the time to respond. i agree that far too often this site is used (like you said) for zingers or “cutsie” stuff. i come here for a good laugh and am often disappointed. i guess i need to find a better website to make me chuckle.
I think people are more interested in the Chris Brown/Rihanna situation than their own lives/neighbours/family members because no one they know is a victim of an abusive relationship. I’m guessing.
yup.
could be, could be…
I dont even know who my neighbors are!
huh… fit sew purfekdli…
not funny.
rihanna deserved it.
in all my years of seeing these things happen i have never met a person man or woman in an abusive relationship that didnt goad their partner on. . . if she didnt want to get hit she should have shut her mouth and just walked away
Offensive troll is offensive.
Which is what you should do.
what if she did walk away and he followed? and followed and followed and followed and followed.
or what if you do walk away and they don’t follow physically but the abuser calls or text or communicates in someway that if you don’t come back something horrific will happen…
let say you left you moms ashes or your pet there or something with strong sentimental value is left behind and they threaten to destroy that if you don’t come back? how strong willed will you be. Will you let them flush you mom ashes? will you let them kill your cat?
then you call the cops and tell them that someone is harassing you.
not that hard just keep on calling get a restraining order and its that simple.
just like what you would do to a stalker.
Cops don’ come (they can’t pick up someone for harassment until they physically do something) and if they do something physical they are only held for awhile and then released MORE angry that you made them go through that.
There’s no reason for a man to put his hands on a woman. If you’re that weak that you let words provoke you to hit and beat on the weaker sex then you’re the lowest form of maggot infested shit there is. Assuming it gets any lower than that…
A perfect match. Simply uncanny!!!!
He looks like even MORE of a douche with the Palestinian-style scarf around his neck! He’s the douche-value-pack!
So we let a terrible “looks like” slide just because he allegedly beat his girlfriend? No thanks. Take this “looks like” where the two objects do not look alike and go directly to Fail Blog. Do not pass go, do not collect $200.
hallelujah!! you are so right… if they wanted a celebrity commentary they should have posted there. not on the TLL page!
Well, he is a douche (or douchebag), but this isn’t really a proper “TLL”. I admit I found it kind of funny, though, lol
ouch. total burn on Summer’s Eve.
As far as the beatings go and Rihanna staying with Chris, people who haven’t been in a abusive relationship don’t understand the way the mind of someone who’s on the victims end. Usually there’s ways to tell if someone is sooner or later going to be violent or abusive but in the situations where they manifest fully the victim is so “in love” that they cannot see the signs and they distance their situations from others. By distancing themselves they become convinced that it’s not the same, no one knows how they feel and that “he/she isn’t like that.” So, yeah, I can see why Rihanna went back. It’s hard to completely change your views on someone you love in just one night, even when something so tragic happens. And as a person, I feel violence of any sort is just stupid, particularly out of anger. It shows weakness. But for a male to hit a female? For the sake of equality, it’s okay in self defense, but what Chris Brown did was completely and utterly out of hand. Anyone who believes that someone must be beaten to be “put in their place in the world” has skewed views of the world. Violence is nothing but weakness of the brain.
“Violence is nothing but weakness of the brain.”
Beautifully put. People who use violence as a means to an end have no intellectual standing, and I think that’s what makes them so mad.
best post i’ve seen thus far. voiced all the issues i wanted to comment on but didn’t want to construct myself. awesome!
except for one.
People really think holding a life issues debate on a TLL comment page is a good idea?
he was just keeping his ho in check
WIN
*this* made it to the main page?!?
No kidding… I thought the Timon and Steering Wheel was a stretch but I don’t see any PHYSICAL resemblance in all seriousness.
Orion(sounds like MORON) even a woman should never raise her hand against a man.Just smile and kick him REALLY hard in the JUNK.
haha!
More like “Totally IS a…” lol
I think lots of people have already said this but that is hilarious and true. Best Look Alike ever
He may not look like one, but that doesn’t mean he isn’t one.
Yes! WIN!
i still think my rihanna lookslike a punching bag was funnier…. but am not surprised it got deleted
Sorry I missed it!
who is chris brown anyway
A douche, as shown in Exhibit A.
*adds to Anonymous’ statement* Duh.
Can we just enjoy the comparison without making a federal case out of it??? Stop all this arguing – you need to go pet your cat and calm down.
uhhh but some of us don’t enjoy it duh
only the comments make me come back XD
This TLL is an insult to douches everywhere.
I would of never known what Chris Brown looked like, but I would of never guessed he appeared to be what he looked like.
To be honest I really don’t know anything about him other then he raps…
psh, virgins
I’m reasonably sure it has been said already, but just in case… no one has the right or the privilege to hit, maim, abuse, whatever- another human being. No one. Male, female, hermaphrodite, whatever. What I fail to understand (since the wife-beaters seem to be unanimously pro-life republicans {granted, gross generalization}) is why HER life is worth so much less than theirs. Obviously this is a highly polarized debate. What I really don’t understand is why.
anybody ever seen the movie “Enough”? the fact remains that some women prefer “the devil you know than the devil you don’t” that does not make them weak in any way it makes them human– our survival instinct dictates that we are risk-averse. I’d invite anyone who has grown up in the US to spend a significant amount of time in a culture where misogyny is the norm. If the “stop playing the victim” argument holds true, why haven’t these women filed for refugee status in the US?
As for the actual Rihanna-Chris fiasco, while I am not justifying abuse in any way, I invite one and all to look at the whole story. A member of my family is fond of saying “there are three sides to every story: my side, your side, and the truth.” Nothing Rihanna could have done justifies her being victimised the way she was, however, taking into consideration the fact the Chris comes from an abusive background himself, it is possible and plausible that he was pushed to the limits of his patience. Before anyone starts with the verbal attacks, I am fully aware that there are men and women who come from abusive backgrounds who have successfully broken that cycle, not many people have that level of inner strength and discipline required to change the learned behavior. It is not our job to judge Chris on whether he has been able to break his own cycle.
And yes, I do acknowledge that abuse in any situation is a crime and should be punished to the fullest extent of the law. I only hope that this whole incident has been a lesson to Chris, and that he will seek help for what seems to be unresolved issues in his past regarding abuse.
I can see how someone could get them mixed up.
Dear Abby’s Signs of an Abuser
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ucda/20090315/lf_ucda/womanstartstoquestionboyfriendsprotectiveness;_ylt=Am2QU8QZHIwhanHVfPULvRrNbbUC
for the lookalike, yeah it’s funny.
in general, i think there are occasions where a man CAN hit a woman, but that would mean open hand and never EVER full force. and it should be to calm one down, not to hurt or kil or so. i think domestic violence is a horrible thing, and like it was said earlier, violence just shows the weakness of the brain.
For the chris rihanna insident, when i first heard about it i lol’d. because i couldn’t believe a loser like the brown guy could actually hit a female. when i heard he actually did that, i was just suprised he got himself a pair of balls (kiss kiss kiss kiss lovely dovely. ). tho the balls are a pair of a jackass. but oh well. i think rihanna does have a bit of blame, since i’m pretty sure that beatign was not about his meal being too cold. she didn’t desirve it, i’m just sayign that it wasn’t chris’ fault for their relationship to end up in a point where it showed that chris was that much of a weak loser and hit her. i think they should both take anger management classes.
A MAN CAN NEVER HIT A WOMEN! IN FACT IT SHOULD AND MIGHT BE AGAINST THE LAW! HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF ABUSE? I DON’T KNOW WHAT’S GOING THROUGH YOUR MIND BUT IT’S WRONG!
a man can never hit a woman, but it’s okay for a woman to hit a man? and “should be or might be”? i know a lot more about abuse then you might think. and your caps lock is impressing no one. so you can stop using that. also, there is a difference between hitting and hitting.
Uncanny…
i see no resemblance
bahaha
That’s so stupid, it doesn’t look like him at ALL, and it’s mean.
How did this get so serious? LAEM
He does look like a douche.
Even before all of this abuse stuf he looked like a douche.
I kinda don’t get it and that is so wrong but I found myself laughing my head off
that’s not funny. I like CB.
My two cents:
Nobody deserves to be beaten and abused, no matter their gender how big of douche they are. However, big douches (such as the one pictured here) DO deserve to go to prison, regardless of gender. If you abuse or kill another person, you need to be locked up.
lolololol
That was a good one
all of this talk because of one picture. it’s true, a picture can say a thousand words… X 15.
Heyya Your a hell of a good singer
hahahah
ok its not right 4 a man 2 hit a woman but y is it ok 4 a woman 2 hit i guy (nawt) i dont get it thts soooo stupid y is tht ok……..yea chris brown had no right 2 hit her and im sure as hell tht its not right 4 a grl 2 hit a guy….right wuts up wit tht….like come on wtf y is the world soo damn complicated!!!!!!!!!!!!
Best think I’ve seen on the Look Alikes Page
I just think he is a douche, can’t we all live with that?
Are you really arguing over the proper use of a *slang word* ? I’m pretty sure slang is used however you please. Here in the US, “a douche” is generally understood to be a total dill-weed, asshat, tool, etc. Do we ever say “you’re total douche” or “i can’t believe what huge douche you are?” The answer is no, but who really cares? If it caught on, then we probably would.
Raise your hand if you’re a woman. Raise your hand if you’ve ever seen a douche bag, outside of the box (mom’s doesn’t count.) That’s what I figured.
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lul … nice 1
I don’t get it. Someone please explain!!!
He IS a douche!
Finally, someone got it right. And Miley Cyrus is a whore, lol.
Finally someone who agrees with me about CB and Miley Cyrus
I actually laughed out loud at this one. In the context of the others, this is absolutely hilarious.
I can see the resemblance…
wow, making fun of chris brown turned into an argument about sexism. way to go CB .
rofl
Um. Ouch. Chris Brown isn’t A Douche.
5 Year Old Idiot.
Chris Brown isnt THAT Bad. Meanie.
try being his girlfriend and get beaten up and see what a meanie we are
You lose the game.
Fail.
Failboat.
Fhailstorm.
win
lolololololololololololololololol this made my fucking day
totally.
I laughed so hard I beat up my girlfriend.
Win!
LMFAO ! :’D
this made me almost cry (:
This is just silly! The first argument on this was about grammar! stay on the subject here! Chris Brown is a douche. Now i have to go buy a milk.
i agree wit smelly belly i used 2 hav one of them, it smelled like vanilla, i like cheese n it took me 3 hours 2 read all of dis n mi time wuld hav been betta spent watchin paint dry or sleepin lol
if any1 else likes cheese plz reply 2 dis wat ur fav type of cheese choc or chainsaw. im not random, but doz any1 kno if u can smuggle tiny teddies into iraq n y do hamburgers come in paks of 10 n buns in paks of 8 just puttin dat out dere lolz
luv allie
You win the internet for this.
Chris Brown deserves whatever hell is coming his way.
‘English is a Germanic Language’.
Never. Say. That. Again. EVER.
Kthxbai.
and why not? it is a germanic language.
ROFL. Comparison of the year, every year forever.
Whew! I’m pooped. G’night!
Wow… I actually read all those comments.
Probably 40% of the people who posted were douches themselves.
Douche.
A douche.
It may be old, but it’s still funny
i agree with ICDK
I must admit I just lol’d in my shorts
*sigh* Sadly this discussion is no longer about the picture itself, just a massive pile of troll food.
Anyway, the pic gave me a good laugh. The comment thread gave me a good case of indigestion.
omfg that was soo funny!!! and totally unexpected from this lol
dude , i can’t believe in that…..wound be very very more easily just laugh and fuck everything? -.-
bwahahahaha omfg i totally burst out laughing from this one EPIC WIN INFINITY!!!!!!!!!!!
this is one huge troll fest. i dont need to hit my man to make him cry he is way bigger than me and he knows i could beat the crap out of him and i can and have made him cry with only words i spoke and many times. not that im proud of it and i do feel bad about it. my point is words can be more deadly and harmful than fists. men should try words and not their hands which it seems for them an impossible feat.
Are you serious?
Yes, you’re right. Men should focus more on verbally thrashing their loved ones to the point of tears and emotional abuse. Hitting is bad. You’ve enlightened me.
Now if you’ll excuse me, my girlfriend made a mess in the kitchen. I need to go call her a worthless sack of shit and tell her to quit acting like a coked-up hooker.
No. Abuse is never all right. Get off your high horse and admit to yourself that there’s nothing sophisticated or refined about making your boyfriend cry when you feel he needs a good lesson learned, no matter how you did it.
Or is it an impossible feat to see that there is nothing barbaric about hitting someone at all when you compare it to advocating (even encouraging) other forms of abuse?
/done trolling
Heh, I’d never noticed the resemblance until now.
ahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
Win.
Hahahah this is funny…very true…overdone, but none the less funny!
Wow. Kind of rude.
I don think it is funny at all.
If you dont like someone dont have to be THAT rude. My goodness.
Rude?? how about him beating the shit out of his girlfriend, that was rude. i thought it was extremely funny.
i agree, this was probably the funniest thing i saw all day
Are you kidding? Do you also beat up people you supposedly love and think it’s ok?
Wowz, u r ….SO FREEKIN CORRECTO! he is. that bass-tard should go 2 hello with out the “oh”! lolz
wow….got him bad
WIN.
why is everybody here trying to prove a point of what they believe in? Lay off the topic, man! It’s too much already. Get back to the main point of the TLL. It’s Chris Brown.
Everybody has a right here. No matter what they believe in. Nobody here is in the running to be a President/Senator etc.
PS: No hard feelings.
Maybe he just heard that umbrella song play on the radio again and raged…
hahahha nice
woooooooooooooow
its a funny picture, so why does it matter what its called. really, you all sound like a bunch of FAGS!
BAHAHAHAHA LOVE it!!
!!! LOL what a douche bag.
LOL! @ the comment fight FAIL
Amazingly good call rofl well done!
I SEE IT!!!!!!!!!
This post in a nutshell…
CB is A douche… (Milk is not a goood example of how to use the word “a”, because it’s like an amount of something… Hard to explain. Use a noun like book. CB is A book. CB is A dipshit. CB is A douche.
Rihanna should not have gone back, and she has the resources, etc. to leave. She does NOT necesarrily deserve it, nor does anyone else in an abusive relationship.
Not O.K. for abused women to stay with abusive spouse, at all. When there’s a will, there’s a way. MOST CASES. Welcome to the realm of prayer.
I like the look-alike, as well as the Rihanna punching bag one because it’s funny, and it’s a humour site. Period.
For you feminist jerkwads, why in hell would it be okay for a woman to hit a man, but not vice-versa? I DO NOT [Read before you post stupid replies] agree with either, but the whole woman-feminism thing is complete bullshit for varying reasons. People of all races and genders are equal.
The non-bullshit posts were funny as the shitz.
Feminists need to get laid.
O.J. didn’t do it.
It’s a joke damnit.
Quit getting into a stupid debate on whats right and or wrong about the term “a douche”
The picture was suppose to be insulting, it got it’s point through (grammar and terminology excluded) You get the point. If not, then you’re an idiot.
You all sound stupid.
Stfu and Gtfo choobs
epic win!
THAT IS EFFING’ GREAT
blarg, that’s the one thing i forgot to post… eh, who gives a damn?
This is just HILARIOUS
wow it took one comment to start this whole argument…ANYWAY this is funny lawlz
LMAO!!!!!!!
iDont Get It…@_@…WTF
LMAO i always thought he was a douche, and to think my girlfriend dedicated one of his songs to us . poofter.
I am angry at a previous commenter! Grrr!
what it dosent even look like him.whoever made this is a idot!!!
it’s spelled “ideot” you jurk.
No, whoever made this is GENIUS!
icwutudidthar
……..thats just funny.
these comments totally look like they are off topic
I thought Rihanna looked hott in the police photo of her alleged attack. She no doubt deserved it. Women these days think they are on the same level as men…until they start to get that face beat; then they realize their place…as Rihanna does now.
Oh no…women aren’t on the same level as men at all… They’re higher ^_^.
Sexist bastard.
This is the best one on here!!! so funny and it’s true
Oh my god… win.
EPIC WIN
LAWZ
Most epic interweb argument ever. And some of the most prolific trolling I’ve ever seen. Stealth, you are douche.
i was like eh…….. then i lol’d
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
I just read this conversation…..I am laughing…..a lot.
haha awesome!
wow. it doesnt matter how to spell douche, or the correct way to use it, but indeed Cris Brown is a douche. He beats women. That sucks. He sucks
i learned a lot more from these comments than my english lessons. REALLY!!!
^^ All 573 of you lose.
This picture was a test to find out who would fight over the internet about a rapper. When in reality, an AMERICAN doesnt listen to rap. Only over excited skinny white boys wearing Fubu, and the occasional out of place black guy who thinks hes bad.
are u sure u didnt just use the same picture twice cuz they look so identical
I lol’d outloud lol
SO FUCKING TRUE.
he also looks like a little girl.
HAHA XD I lol’d for about 5 minutes.
Too bad this is not funny and doesn’t belong to a “totally LOOKS like” page. There’s absolutely no optical resemblance.
Too bad you are not funny, and don’t belong in life.
Ok, I understand the need to prove your intelligence on the internet. However this website is a sub of icanhascheezburger.com. There is absolutely no point in arguing about grammar, spelling, or anything of the sort on this of all websites.
Also I’m pretty sure it’s not the place to argue about domestic violence, racism, and who listens to rap.
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lol…
what happened? this had over 1000 votes… now it’s 22?
LMFAO!
thats so funny i didnt get it at first thn i read it lol