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Well not sure of the first one, but the second one sucks.
Agreed.
twilight sucks
And the Twilight fans suck even more
http://twilightsucks.proboards81.com/index.cgi?board=fangirls&action=display&thread=5175
Check out the attacks.
Kinda sad that there’s a forum dedicated do whining about how crappy Twilight is.
But I guess Twilight’s ripping everything off. There was a TLL not long ago showing the Twilight perfume was in an almost identical container to another brand.
Kind of sad? Really sad. People have too much time… normally when you don’t like something, you don’t think about it.
Not as sad as rabid fangirls squealing Twilight every five seconds and rubbing it on the face of every person they encounter.
Not to mention when they get violent and defensive when you point out it’s a badly written wet dream.
It’s mainly for those of us to vent our frustrations without the worry of getting beaten up, verbally or physically.
lol victim complex
Except Twilight was published before the CS Lewis book in this case.
No it wasn’t. Fail.
Seriously. Saying it’s so does not make it so.
Actually… That version of C S Lewis’s book wasn’t released until 2007.
Twilight came out in 2005.
I’m too lazy to see if anyone else pointed this out.
Its not like it was the author’s fault whoever published this book ripped off the Twilight cover. He’s been dead for 46 years.
there is whole series of Christan books that use the apple in hand has a form of symbolism of the fall of man… ironically that’s why the apple in hand was chosen for Twilight and its religious sub tones.
Whoa, informed christian FTW.
Thank you C.S. Lewis was doing no marketing himself in this case, and also authors do not choose the cover art for thier book
they made perfume? wow, that is sad.
yeah…. so you never read the book… im not a crazy fan or anything but the books are really well written so get mad at the fans, not the books
Hey, everyone, come sneer at the sparklevamp!
“OMG! I’m Bella!!1! And I’m so ugly because I’m white and I’m brunette!1!”
“I-am-Edward. I-have-no-personality-whatsoever.”
“OMG! Let’s make out and frolic with ponies and unicorns!11!!!11!!1!”
“Okay.”
“OMG! OMG! OMG!”
Not to mention the heavy Mormon symbolism, the overuse of descriptors, the really disturbing marriage-consummation bit (where he basically rapes her and breaks her bones), and the fact that the only thing remotely vampire-like about the vampires is their lifespan…
i agree big time
Of course it had to do with religion.
Meyer is a Mormon, right? How would it be possible to write a purely original sstory without injecting one’s own beliefs and ideals into it?
Because the book sucks?
Doodle,
As someone who has studied many religions (including that of “Mormonism”), I am telling you that your insinuation that Stephenie Meyer based her story on Mormon beliefs is purely idiotic and proves your ignorance to what the Latter-day Saints believe. Latter-day Saints do not condone pre-marital sex, lustful thoughts or non-observance of the Sabbath day, all portrayed within the Twilight series. And by that same token, whatever a member of a particular church does is not always condoned by the church itself. So do not base your knowledge of religious belief on the knowledge of a fictional character.
pls give some examples of religion. bc im well versed in various religions and i dont see what you mean.
this is a waste of a webpage. why would anyway waste this much time debating something that is purely opinion. everyone is right…its their OPINION.
Apparently you never took a course of literature that deals with symbolism in Lit. If you had you would see the whole book is a allegory. Or you could just read the Lion and the Lamb bit. and the lion lies down with the lamb, Violence is not the answer…
Twilight sucks. And I have read it. All four books.
If you read it, you’ll notice that Stephenie Meyer’s writing is extremely poor and I–and 8th grader–can probably write a heck of a lot better than that.
Two, it has very little plot.
Three, the characters have no depth.
Four, while it does promote abstinence, it’s for the wrong reasons in some cases, and he sneaks into her room every night and they make out.
That’s why Twilight sucks.
Dear mrsjonforeman,
Before I respond to your comment let me make it clear that I have read the Twilight series and am neutral about the content therein.
My advice to you is simple, do not boast of your writing skills when you violate grammatical rules beginning with your name and ending with your improper use of punctuation. And I’m positive that many people will defend Stephenie’s writing skill regardless of whether they are fans of her literature or not.
How can you say twilight doesnt have anything to do with religion? The first page quotes genesis 2:17! That quote is the reason the apple is on the cover.
Excuse i am a member of the LDS Church (Mormons) and yes Stephenie Meyer is also a member, but there is not any symbolism. IN FACT I’d actually say the C.S. Lewis book would ring truer to our beliefs. Thank you Very much
your the dumbass if you think twilight is actually a good book.
since when is this a “lets hate twilight site”
personally im a huge fan!
me to!!! i love it!!
i USED to love it until i saw how poor the writing was. is.
how can you read it , love it, and THEN begin to hate it after you see the writing? wouldn’t you notice that as you read?
I for one, like Twilight, although i am not some phyco(spelling!) fan-girl who obsesses and wants to be Bella. It is a good book.
what the hell you sad lonely person.
the books are really well written and only pathetic people take the piss like that
The thing I don’t get about the sparkling vampires is, aren’t vampires destroyed when they’re in light?
Umm.. I read the first book and the first part of the last book (to verify the stupidity of the marriage/virgin117yroldmale). They’re not well written at all, I have no idea what you’re comparing them to.. lol. The writing style is weak and relies on over-used adjectives and cliches. Purple prose ftl. Grammatical errors ftl. I don’t hate the Twilight fans that enjoy it for the pure fantasy/teenage romance crap that it is, but the ones that say that it’s a “well written good book?” Yeah, right.
Um.
These books are definitely not really well written.
The fans just make it worse.
What people fail to realize is that it’s adolescent literature, so most older people will not enjoy these books (though there are the exceptions to the rule, namely lonely, middle-aged women).
I agree with whomever stated that it was a ‘badly written wet dream’. I was fine with these books and thought they were a fun read until the last one just came out. Now all I hear about is how amazing the sex scene is.
What? There is no sex scene. Just an allusion to the idea that sex is about to happen, or has just happened.
In any case, this is definitely an example of good storytelling, not necessarily great writing.
I have read all four books and was once an addict, however, like all fads – I became bored with hearing about Twilight and Edward Cullen every 5 seconds. I agree with your last statement, “this is definitely an example of good storytelling, not necessarily great writing” thank you for thinking your reply through without insulting other people or trying to make yourself appear superior.
I’ve read all four books and loved them, but to be honest, they ARE poorly written. If you read them as what they are , a book for teenagers, then I would consider them average. I’ve read books that are worse, but the books can’t hold a candle to the classics. Unfortunately, people forget that it was never even in the running to be a classic. Can you really see an English teacher using quotes from Twilight as an example of a good metaphor in fifty years? I doubt it.
Er…I’m not sure what books YOU were reading, but the Gaylight Saga was NOT well written.
Take a few grammar lessons and get back to me…see how you feel after you’re intelligent.
Nope just a wet dream fantasy like the rest of her crap.
you totally suck big time
I think YOU suck big time. D;
have u even read the books?… dont be hating other people who have and liked it… dont judge a book by its fans either; so what people love the books… people probably dont hate on you for the books you read and like
Should we kill all twilight fans
Ironically Twilight is words to live by for lonely fat chicks who don’t even have a chance as a drunk college guy’s last resort.
yeah go to youtube and check out any one of nuttymadams3537 videos. shes a twilight addict crazy bitch!
well destiny u suck thats your opinion!!(team JACOB)!!!!!
Twilight sucks
I think it is more irony than anything… one on being a christian (according to this picture- I haven’t read either one) and the other on being a vampire.
You do know that the author of Twilight is Mormon, right?
You misspelled MORON
Here’s an Internet. What’s that? No one uses Internets anymore? That’s how fast memes go? Ah.
As for this TLL, it should be the other way around, as described by below users.
Lastly, “Twilight” sucks.
MORMON is a RELIGION… you’re the MORON
You seem to think that Pie was unaware of this. I dunno, Moron fits her pretty well, even if Mormon is indeed correct.
Actually, MORMONISM is a RELIGION, whereas MORMON was a supposed
PROPHET who’s translated BOOK IS central to their FAITH. MORON is simply an apt noun when referring to anyone who ascribes to such a scam….
Or someone who insists on capitalizing every third word for emphasis instead of comedic effect.
Mormon comes from the name Moroni, the angel which Joseph Smith
said appeared to him.
Mormon – religion
Moroni – purported angel
Joseph Smith – founder of Mormonism/LDS
Moron – …
Mormon doesn’t come from the name Moroni, they were two separate people. Mormon took all the of the records and combined them into one. Moroni is Mormon’s son. Mormon 8:1
lol
I think it’s a joke.
Uh.. I do believe that was called a joke.
Understanding Joke Fail…
Moron??
Do we see you making millions of dollars by giving a (relatively) wide
audience, that is not just limited to teenage girls and those of a gothic
persausion, entertainment and enjoyment???
If you were, you wouldn’t be disrespecting
a) her religious stance
and
b) her.
Because if you didn’t like it, you’d know just how difficult it is to achieve
something of this magnitude.
Call her a moron when you justification.
* even “if you didn’t like it”…
Just because lonely housewives and preteen girls enjoy a series of books, it does not make them “well written”. After all, this exact demographic continues to to hand money to the dime store romance novel dealers.
At least when Anne Rice wrote porn, she had the decency to not hide it.
Why do you people say housewives and preteens. I know tons and tons of people that like Twilight and the woman are all married and certainly not lonely nor housewives and preteens shouldnt be involved with Twilight. Teenagers are. Just felt like pointing that out.
i luv twilight
1) 2 a coment up top- I am a brunett and white!!!!!!
2) i am soooooo not goth my best friend is morman and theres nothing wrong with it!!!!!
3) some of u guys are damn racists!!!!!! my best friend is morman and theres nothing wrong with it!!!!!
Ugh. The mindless drivel here is truly painful.
1) Don’t use numbers to substitute homonyms. (Apologies if your 6th
grade class hasn’t got to “homonyms” yet. Google it)
2) Capitalize the personal pronoun, “I.”
3) Learn to use apostrophes (ex. “there’s” which is a contraction of
“There is”)
4) The term “racist” refers to people who are intolerant of other races –
as in races of humanity: “African-American” “Caucasian” “Hispanic”, etc.
There’s nothing “wrong” with choosing to be a Mormon (which needs to
be capitalized), so long as it’s an informed decision. Some people (such
as myself) believe the religion to be a scam and tends to attract people
who are… well, bluntly put, mindless.
There is, however, a lot wrong with masticating the English language.
You have proved to me, and everyone else in this forum that those who
read Twilight are prepubescent, nearly illiterate, Mormons…oops, I
mean morons.
You’re a jerk and people are just using Chatspeak because in case you haven’t noticed this is a website on a COMPUTER.
And by the way I love Twilight
I’m not a jerk. I’m intelligent and seeing as that bothers you, I gather that you rightfully represent the general demographic of “Twilight” readers. (Did you get any of that? Apologies for my shortage of “chatspeak” and two syllable words)
The English language is not a conditional sort of thing. You either know it, use it properly, and your ideas are well represented, or you don’t and look ignorant. Same thing with fine literature. You can either recognize a piece of well written literature that is an artful masterpiece that speaks to people across cultures and generations, or you become a mindless follower of the current fad and read a piece of defecation such as Stephenie Meyer has squatted and dropped.
It’s your choice, but as for myself… I choose to speak and write like an individual that demands respect. Am I an ass for being a bit elitist? Probably. Do I care? Nope.
You may feel that you are very intelligent by using such amazingly long words, putting down others, being very prejudice, stereotyping, and, of course, assuming you are right purely because you have a worrying obsession with the English language. I respect that you are of these opinions. However, I do disagree with a lot of what you have said (apart from, of course, the corrections to spelling, grammar and word use). I do agree that there are flaws in Stephenie’s writing, but overall she manages to convey emotions and feelings conjured from forbidden love. For any author to capture such an audience (even if you do not approve of their tastes, or care about their opinions) there has to be something about the author’s writing as a whole which captivates the imagination and causes such an epic “fandom” to be created. Also, I have observed that once you look past your point that people who read “Twilight” are ” mindless follower[s] of the current fad and read a piece of defecation such as Stephenie Meyer has squatted and dropped.” and your (understandable) annoyance about the misuse of English/poor quality of writing by people commenting on the internet, you have no stated problem with the fans of “Twilight”. If this is the case, maybe you should let them state their opinions, rather than trying to trip up people with mostly irrelevant points. I would also like to say, as a side point, that personally I find Twilight a brilliant book because it is poetic, romantic and, in my opinion, well written. Before anyone jumps down my throat be clear that I am aware that some things could be written better, and that there are some much better authors out there. I am aware of the typos, blind use of a plot device in the form of Jacob Black, and scenes which do not please everyone. However, I feel that her style is realistic of a teenage girl of that age. I also think that the thoughts and feelings can be caught on to really easily and that Stephenie’s ability to blend in the stupidly unrealistic to our world, whilst providing answers to any flaws is done particularly well. Maybe the fans of Twilight love it because Stephenie has used the old trick of a main character we can really relate to; but she has done it well with a fresh style and a beautiful storyline. Of course, Stephenie will never be Jane Austen, but Twilight could have as much popularity of Pride and Prejudice, because of its ability to capture the reader. I’m sorry if I have misused words, misspelt words or used awful grammar; I do not mean to offend.
Bravo, Taylor. I commend such a well thought out and formidable opposition to my previous posts. Perhaps I let my love of the English language run away with me, or perhaps I simply resent a fad gathering a following simply because “everyone’s doing it.”
You’ve presented reasonable and honorable reasons to like Twilight, and for that, I respect you and feel that you appreciate the book, with complete understanding of its strengths and faults.
In all honestly, I suppose that I should give Twilight some credit for the simple fact that it is drawing teens back to the joy of reading. It’s far better that they read something (regardless of whether or not it will go down in the ages as art) than for them to continue to gather all of their thoughts from “Laguna Beach” or “Gossip Girl” (no offense to those who do watch those shows, they’re just not my cup of tea).
Some people are drawn to realms of higher thought and to the pursuit of knowledge (and even those indulge in the occasional trashy novel), while others enjoy the simple pleasures of life; gathering them like wildflowers on a roadside without thought or care of their inferiority to more beautiful buds.
In retrospect, I was rather harsh ( I do tend to come off that way when I am passionate) but truly meant no harm. My sarcasm and aim for a good laugh was perhaps a laugh only enjoyed by myself.
I may be arrogant, but then I hope that the anger I incite only motivates others to improve themselves.
Wow, I clearly misunderstood you, and I respect that you took my comments into account. Thank you
It is true, you did get me to improve myself – I hardly ever write such a long comment on this sort of thing.
Also, I’m sorry for not using paragraphs before; my computer messed up, which was irritating to say the least.
Anyway, I’m glad you understood what I was trying to say.
I apologize for my previous comment’s harsh wording, but I do not apologize for stating what I think about your comment to Hannah. I too come across as rude (which is the downside of text), but I am a Devil’s Advocate regardless of my true beliefs. And I think it is unfair to pick on others whether it be to their face or on a computer screen. So besides the fact that I agree with you on the disgrace of the degradation of the English language, I do not agree with your choice of words and insults directed towards Twilight fans and Mormons.
What a load of crap! I feel truly sorry for you. It must be really hard being you and having absolutely nothing to do all day but giving people crap for not using proper grammar. Talk about issues… What? Can’t get laid so you cry yourself to sleep every night curled up in bed with your overused cum- and tearstained Longman wondering why no one likes you? I don’t like people who like to insult others for any reason but you just push my buttons! There really is nothing that pisses me of like prescriptivist assholes such as yourself. Get a life, prick! You aint no nazi, just a sad, sad little man. Suck on that double negation, biatch! Peace out!
Oh, btw, Taylor, you rule!
I love you.
If you think that Chatspeak is supposed to be used on the computer, then why don’t you use it?
GrammarNazi,
Thank you for pointing out the grammatical errors produced by Hannah. However, your superior attitude does not change the fact that you are an ignorant bigot who is obviously closeminded to the beliefs of others regardless of your own feelings. Do not state your opinion as fact, it is extremely unflattering to yourself. How bored are you that you, an English snob would sink to moderating an online forum centered around a Young Adult novel?
*Side note*
I think it is strange that you willing labeled yourself GrammarNazi when there are many people who would find the use of the word “Nazi” offensive and in bad taste.
Grammar nazi is a commonly used name for people who correct other people who don’t use proper spelling and grammar.
“apologies if your 6th grade class HASN’T GOT to “homonyms” yet”
hasn’t got?
if you’re going to pick apart someone’s grammar under the title of “GrammarNazi,” you should probably double check your own first… just saying.
Of the many things wrong with your comment, I find this error to be particularly funny. You said: “3) some of u guys are damn racists!!!!!! my best friend is morman and theres nothing wrong with it!!!!!”
Since when is Mormon a race?! I always thought it was a religion…
WTF? Learn 2 spell Hannah! You’re a moron!!
Morman means nothing. Mormon is a religion, you can only be racist to other RACES.
get a life
Lawl.
“Those of a gothic persuasion”?
You mean eighth-grade carnies who have greasy hair, short lolita skirts, wear leggings and Chuck Taylors and read manga and know how to say “I love you”, “hello”, and “you’re an idiot” in Japanese?
hey, i read manga and i am NOT goth…..besides, i think the reason people like twilight is becase someone with bad taste started liking it.then they thought”oh, to be cool, i have to like it” and BOOM, no everyones drooling over a book and movie. BY the way, in the movie, edward loooks like a clown.
Hey! Don’t insult the Chucks, man!
err…no, she meant Mormon. its a religion.
I AGREE WITH JESUS.
it wasnt even moron he was say she is mormon like as in the religon JEEZ!
But one was written by christians.. the other by a mormon mother of small boys.. *rubs chin* I’m sorry. I still see the same thing.
Well, it’s C.S. Lewis, so it’s pretty likely the first one sucks, too.
Spoken like someone who thinks that Lewis only wrote Narnia.
Zing!
haha, nice bro.
That comment just made you an idiot. Congratulations. You just insulted the name of one of the greatest authors of our time.
Come on, the space trilogy sucked monkeyballs. And most of the Narnia books were ham-fisted morality plays.
You should read what This guy wrote.
lol i didnt even no he wrote books untill about a month ago!!!!
because your mum made you read twilight
Uh. That’s a fail…
Was that before or after the lobotomy?
Good author – yes, one of the greatest authors of our time – not even close
lol calm down
But it’s the best selling work of fiction by a Mormon author since the Book of Mormon.
I would disagree with this statement. Orson Scott Card is mormon and he wrote one of the enduring books of the last century: Ender’s Game. It still sells many copies and it’s almost 30 years later.
Damn skippy! I’m an atheist and Orson Scott Card is one of my very favorite authors. (Though I don’t read his religious non-fiction, or fiction for that matter. And yes, that does include the Alvin Maker series.)
That said, “Twilight” was published in 2005 and C.S. Lewis’s book in 2007.
Let me clarify. I was referring to this printing of this C.S. Lewis work, not to the original work, since that is not what “looks like” “Twilight”.
personally, I didn’t like the characterization.
the twilight series is such mormonistic crap. Not bashing mormonisn so much as hating the usery of “teen litter-a-chur” to preach it to our daughters, not to mention validating teen pregnancy.
This is the correct answer.
It seems that a large amount of children’s and teen literature today is aimed at pushing some social or religious perspective on them.
nah, twilight’s just pushing teenage horniness
which means it doesnt count as children or teen’s literature,
Twilight was first according to the date of publication
I think that should be the other way around.
Second! I’m sick of these idiots putting the pictures the wrong way round.
True story.
I agree zefig, putting the cart before the horse.
You can put the cart before a horse. A Special Cart though.
I think often times that is the point and is partly what makes them so funny…yet on this particular case I agree, they should be swapped. Even if the first had come after the second.
The relationship “looks like” does not imply order. It is commutative (like addition and subtraction). Get over it.
addition and multiplication you mean, order matters in subtraction and division.
1-2 = -1
2-1 = 1
WIN! you tell ‘em, acamori
amen! shouldn’t the one that was created later be considered the one that “looks like” the “original?” so… twilight LOOKS LIKE c.s. lewis’s book…
THANK YOU!
*claps*
The C.S. Lewis book was published after the Twilight book.
I’m not a fan of Twilight or anything but.. Words to Live By was published in 2007 (copyright stating it is the first edition) and Twilight was published in 2006, so technically Twilight was first.
Just so you know.
Lets all consider the fact that C.S. Lewis died in the 1960’s
And that Narnia was originally written in the 1950’s, so its highly probable that the Original ‘Words to Live By’ was published way back before a few of you were even born
Also
Twilight Sucks.
Books can be republished. And the “words to live by” publishers (knowingly or not) chose a cover similar to the twilight cover.
“Observer” meant twilight was published with that cover before “words”.
Does this need to be explained further, kattlekitty? you seem a bit slow.
“Let’s all consider the fact”…jesus…
True. The C.S. Lewis was republished with this cover after the issuance of Twilight. Therefore, Words to Live By truly does look like Twilight.
Thank you both for getting my point across.
One word: Posthumous.
Another word: Periodontal.
he died?
Oh, god. You’re not very bright, are you?
get it? it SUCKS. for vampires. ahahaha
So…C.S. Lewis died in what year and that is a first edition how?
sylvia plath died years ago and there are still tons of her poems unpublished. when those come out, they will be first editions, although they will be at least fifty years old.
sometimes books are published long after an author is dead. another example would be bulgakov’s first editions in russia; published for the first time there at the end of the ussr, decades after they were written and after he died.
You get an Internet for mentioning Sylvia Plath.
To add to the discussion, Ted Hughes died recently as well, about a decade ago, yet he also will end up with multiple reprints of his poetry and stories.
Oh, and I think Twilight sucks. My opinion.
Uh… Try 2005 open a copy and check.
I love both CS Lewis AND Twilight and one of my buddies who is also a fan of both bought me the CSL book for Christmas JUST BECAUSE it had the Twilight cover.
Two thumbs up.
Uberfail.
epic!
fail
I love how the twilight covers have nothing to do with anything in the books.
not entirely true
the first and fourth do.
First, the apple, being the forbidden fruit. Can be looked at from a couple different angles.
and the cover of Breaking Dawn (4th) has the red pawn which represents Bella at the beginning of the saga, the weakest player. the white queen represents her transformation to the most powerful player.
You can read into it however you want, but the fact is that it has nothing concretely to do with the story.
if you insist.
Actually >_>
Stephenie Meyers said she didn’t pick the covers and there’s no theme behind them
Which is good, because as a Mormon she might have a problem with all the covers having a sexual/BDSM symbolism.
u r a huge racists
You can’t spell. D:
Hate to be the one who has to break this to you…but Mormon isn’t a race.
Actually it was only the New Moon cover that she didn’t pick.The rest I
believe she did.But Faetal is right about the meaning behind the covers.
The broken ribbon cover on Eclipse represents choice,between Bella choosing Edward and Jacob.
Actually, she DID pick the first cover. After that, though, you are correct.
The apple is supposed to represent the forbidden fruit in the Garden of Eden.
“First, the apple, being the forbidden fruit.”
Actually that’s a minconception. The Graden of Eden was located in the middle east. There are no apple trees in the middle east. If you follow the belife that God made the world as it is now then there is no way it could have been an apple tree.
Actually, that whole comment is a misconception, Katt.
Since the Bible is a work of fiction, picked and chosen by a very selective group, and it is written by man, not god. . .
But if you follow the belief that the Bible is fact then I suppose your idea would be true. Well thought-out comment, Katt. Kudos
They all mean something.
The first is what you said.
The second is how she loves Jacob and Edward.
The third is how she breaks her ties with Jacob.
And the fourth is what you said AND that Jacob was the weakest player and Edward was the most timportent.
Shhh.
Don’t judge me. [:
You do realize that with that apple signifying the forbidden fruit of the Garden of Eden that makes Edward the Devil, right?
Twilighters don’t even try to say that Edward isn’t like the Devil. If you try to even type that “the Devil is so ugly and Edward’s so hot so they can’t be the same” I will laugh at you. Aside from your blatent judging of a persons quality of character from physical appearance, you need to read the bible because it says that while the Archangel Lucifer was in Heaven even the Lord thought him the most beautiful of the Angels.
I do think we must stop calling Twilight by a certain name however. We must stop referring to Twilight as a vampire book.
To be a vampire one must:
Drink blood or find an alternative like a serum (Check)
Be Immortal or at least incredibly long lived (Check)
Posses meta-human abilities (Check)
Sleep naturally during the day (Negative)
Be allergic to garlic (Negative)
Burst into flames in the sunlight or find alternative (Negative)
Never sparkle [If you do you're most likely a bloody fairy] (No)
Be allergic to silver (Negative)
Die when staked or decapitated (Negative)
Be repulsed by holy objects (Negative)
Have no reflection [This is not as necessary] (Negative)
HAVE F@#%ING FANGS!!! [Über-Necessary] (Negative)
Not vampires.
Also can somebody explain four things for me?
1) How can they only sparkle in the sunlight when UV light, and other
lights found within sunlight, are invisible to human sight?
2) If vampires have been killing humans for as long as anyone can
remember, why are there no human vampire hunters?
3) How does venom, a poison, reconstruct a human genetic code
resulting in an immortal?
4) Finally, how does a person with no heart beat achieve an erection
considering how blood flow is required? Or how dead DNA assists
in the creation of a zygote?
By the way I did read the books, all four of them. *Shudders* That was the most annoying thing I have ever read and I have read a lot.
Also fellow Anti-Twilighters I think that “epic fail” is too gratuitous when appilied to Twilght. Some thing better is needed. Suggestions?
*other lights found only in sunlight
may i just say something about 2 of your points?
I don’t want to start a war or anything.
1) The mirror thing: how would the mirror know what’s behind someone?
2) The no pregnancy thing: there have been older “real vampire” legends having to do with vampires getting humans pregnant.
Louis, from Interview with the Vampire, is not repulsed by holy objects…
he is “Very fond of looking at crucifixes/crosses”
I don’t think any Twilight fans will try and say that Edward is not the Devil, because Edward himself (being crafted by Meyer….obviously) believes he is. He believes he is not good for Bella on so many levels, including the fact that he is a vampire who believes he has lost his soul and has nothing good/ decent, whatever you want to call it, to offer her.
I don’t believe Meyer has really been aiming at Twilight being a “vampire book”, it’s a teen romance.
The fangs and the erection thing, I’ll give you, because I do think that’s pretty bizzare. And yes, her writing is pretty bad, but in essence, I enjoyed the series. Say what you will about my taste, or my intellect because of the fact that I like a book that is poorly written, I really couldn’t care less.
Stephenie Meyer clearly states the meanings of the cover at her website http://www.stepheniemeyer.com
Faetal, I’m not going to ask how you know that, nor why the hell you would care unless you are a major fan. But yeah, C.S. Lewis had a stupid book cover long before Twilight
ha!
Yeah, a bit of a fan…
/wink lol
I worked at a book store, and pointed this out to pretty much everyone. Good one.
Not anymore of that Twilight crap.
Believe it or not Twilight actually cane out before the other book by two years.
Twilight says 2005 while the other says 2007.
http://browseinside.harpercollins.com/index.aspx?isbn13=9780061209123 cs lewis
Believe it or not Twilight actually came out before the other book by two years.
Twilight says 2005 while the other says 2007.
You ARE aware that C.S. Lewis has been dead for a while, right?
Gives a whole new meaning to ghost writer…
They often change cover art on later editions of books.
C.S. Lewis died in the 60s I believe. So yes he obviously copied Twilight. OH WAIT!
Yep. C.S. Lewis came back from the dead just so he could put out a book with the same cover as the most overhyped and horribly written book of our time.
And nobody could possibly have CHANGED the book cover since then.
Covers of books written by long dead authors are changed all the time. They recently commissioned Sheperd Fairey to do the covers of Animal Farm and 1984 who’s author is also long dead.
whose*
Actually now that I think about it, I’m pretty sure “whose” is the complete wrong word.
Whatever, you get it.
And the answer is: who is George Orwell?
common knowledge win.
or is it a fail?
hehe… works better for me as: “1984, the writer of which is also long dead” .
I mean, the possessive here is a bit jarring – the writer owns the book, rather than the book owning the author. (Although I know a few writers who might dispute that… *wink*)
You guys do realize that most authors don’t choose their book covers, right? Aren’t covers chosen by the publisher? I am almost certain as I know several authors and none of them designed their book covers. And they do change covers in later additions, but the majority of book covers are stock photos, not specifically designed for the book, so they didn’t necessarily copy each other. White hands holding a red apple… Not exactly original in the first place.
The publishers have some ’splainin’ to do.
OK, everyone knows he died back in the 60’s….is it possible that he wrote the stuff for the book, never published it and that someone in his family published it under his name in 2007?! Therefore that would make the first run print date in 2007 and thus copying the cover of Twilight!? This has happened a lot especially in the music world (aka Tupac coming out with new songs in 2009, some 13-14 years after his death!!)
Tupac is alive.
That’s because twilight sucks ass and is overrated. Just like the author that writes those infernal books.
Im with you Kaboom
Vampires totally look like pasty white dudes with fangs.
thats funny crap right there.
That sparkle in sunlight
and play baseball
No they don’t, they look like flying rats.
Wow. That seems so alike it looks like it could be copyright.
Do you mean copyright infringement?
i lyk turtles.
turtles suck big time
RANDOM
I spell “like” the right way.
Actually, I believe the Twilight book looks totally like the C.S. Lewis book.
we sense i know it´s so cool to hate something that´s popular just because it is popular, i suppose i should get on with bashing twilight… screw you guys. i liked the books, horribly writing and all, because at least it was interesting…
I read Twilight before it became so popular, and disliked it then.
My primary reasons for not liking it are:
-It reads like a bad fanfic.
-It reads like a Mormon sermon thinly disguised as bad fanfic.
-The main character is a Mary Sue of epic proportions. As an editor, that annoys me to no end.
I’ve never cared about what’s popular or not; if I don’t like something, there’s a reason for it.
When I was in fifth grade, I planned to go to a private middle school. To get in, we had to do a report on a book chosen from their list.
“Twilight: A vampire falls in love with a teenage girl. How do they work their differences out?”
It didn’t sound to bad too me at the time.
So, I bought the book and go to work reading it.
Three days later I sent off my report.
“This book sucks. I hate you and your damn private school.”
And I got in.
I think that to be considered an interesting book the book needs a plot that can’t be sumised with one sentance. You also should have characters with more then 1 demension.
actually when you’re submitting your work for both agents and publishers you HAVE to sum it all up in a ‘hook’ sentence that shows your either book or series plot line and ultimate aim in one swift blow. They also go on the books back page as the ’splash’ hook and then the paragraph or two of a more in depth plot and characters.
Sorry, writer that’s had stuff published.
i think…that’s the same damned hands with that apple!!!
yeeah…wasn’t a fan of the sparkling grape juice vampires or the aliens shout out with the spine crushing doom baby…however! someone will eventually write something on FFnet that actually makes sense…RAWR! like…believable characters with better names! Edward Cullen…does not strike love or fear into my heart! it strikes me…as a nerd i’d shove into a locker and steal his glasses! oooo nerd pwngage for the win!
rawr…i lurv Spike the vampire…now THAT was a vampire! kinda…
Authors are NEVER consulted about covers, that’s entirely the marketing department. Also, many publishers are hopping on the bandwagon and using copy-cats of the Twilight covers, to draw the young adult reader. For example, Evermore, by Alyson Noel.
What about it?
Should put a link to the cover up if you want to give a visual example. D:
Never? Research fail.
i believe it should be Twilight looks like C.S. Lewis…. C.S. Lewis would def. come first.
I agree. C.S. Lewis come first.
Ok thats is it. We need triple and quadruple paneling at TLL, this is the fourth time I’ve seen both these books compared to yet another book with a hand/apple image
twilight sucks, and OOOOOOOOH! Meyer’s ISN’T creative. Loser XD
Personally, I don’t think these look the same at all.
…really? Not at all? The apple held in both hands? That doesn’t look “the same at all” to you?
It’s Britney Spears. What did you think she would say? Something sane?
What?
the book on the left is what inspired Meyer. im kinda obsessd
then your quite crazy in case you didnt know then because being obbsessed with something that dosnt know you back is a major FAIL!!!!!!!!!1
YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT
I think this proves the futility of allowing anyone under 25 access to the internets….. *glares over the top of half-high spectacles*
Both also look like one of the covers for ‘The Giver’.
glad I’m not the only one to notice that.
you’ve never seen people fight about the bible? that’s a book too. Where have you lived?
in the real world.
Actually the C.S Lewis book did come out first but, as a lot of books have been, the cover was changed.But Twilight did exist before the cover of C.S Lewis’s book did.They just changed the cover.
Also the book is just quotes and excerpts from his books and works. That I’m guessing some people just put together.
So it actually came out after Twilight :S
You’re right Emma. According to Borders site the book is a collection of stuff that Lewis wrote, put together by someone else. The official author of the book isn’t Lewis.
Yep. From Amazon.com:
“Words to Live By contains an unprecedented selection of Lewis’s writings, drawing from his most popular works, but also from his volumes of letters and his lesser-known essays and poems. His works are presented in accessible selections covering subjects from A to Z, including beauty, character, confession, doubt, family, holiness, and religion. Both a wonderful introduction to Lewis’s thinking and a wise and insightful guide to key topics in the Christian life, these are truly words to live by.”
Sounds a lot to me like it’s a posthumous collection of his work, meaning that the cover art was chosen by the publisher, prior to this [first] publication in 2007.
And let me add that the editor is Paul F. Ford. And if you look here: http://www.bookschristian.com/se/profiles/books/Paul_F_Ford.html you can see a list of books this fellow has done, one was in 1999, and the last in July after the C.S. Lewis book, and is Ford’s own work. I think it’s clear to see that by dates alone the Lewis book does not pre-date Meyer’s.
Sorry to those who look only at the surface and see the ages of people and not take into consideration the rest of the information.
Who REALLY cares?
Look up.
you do know there have been numerous covers to the C.S. Lewis book Mere Christianity than that one.
LMAO C.S Lewis totally copied Stephenie Meyer :O
FAIL. C.S Lewis has been deceased for several decades.
Book company: design book cover for book about innocence and trust, maybe a hint of adam and eve symbolism, no people, just a classy image.
Design company: Getty Image Search>apple
Book covers are not very original, usually.
Seriously! Devil symbolism. Hello anyone read Genesis?
omg ur right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
twilight sucks. the twilight fans are annoying. the books have too many pages in them. enough said.
Um… C.S. Lewis was Christian until his teen years, when he partially fell away from it. He regained his faith in his early 30s, nearly 20 years before writing the Narnia series.
All the Christian imagery in the Narnia books should have been a clue, mate.
Twilight sucks because the writing is so horribly bad and junior-high schoolish. It’s like a long cheesey fanfic written by a 12 year old. The religion of the author has nothing to do with it. I would say she has some major daddy issues, though.
Sheesh. This isn’t a Twilight bash-a-ton! Not a Twilight reader/watcher myself, but seriously!
Those books look AMAZINGLY similar!!!!
Why not? Twilight is only the stupidest thing ever written.
It should be the other way around. CS Lewis came first.
No, the Lewis book is a compilation published in 2007, and Twilight came in 2005. It shouldn’t really matter, anyway.
mmmhmmm twilight is kinda gay
HEY-OOH!
no its kinda good if u kno wut there tlkin bout but ur all just 2 stupid 2 kno tht lmao
*Written very slowly* Learn English if you want to communicate with me. Too much 1337 and you can’t be understood. Try to make the following coherent: fkfhkfhr9r8w45489705u89ong ejhis9ooeeuuuduyyhhkdh
we dont have 2 waist r time spelling out words for idiots.when we cn shorten them n not waist our lives being troubld by spellin.ik english very well,fyi!
…well, it shows!
You’re stupid.
Just thought I’d point that out.
You get that a lot, don’t you?
Mormonism is a religion based around a 14 year old who had visions in a forest and said he had gold plates from God, but wouldn’t show anybody. They think that people of any color are evil because it is the mark of Cain. Some Mormons believe it’s okay to have multiple wives. This is only a sample of why Mormons are screwed up, I’d recommend looking up more stuff about this for a more detailed explanation.
The writing is like something a 7th grader would write: quick, simple, and sometimes interesting to read, but lacking depth and varying writing techniques. Overuse of adjectives and simple characters are also prevalent. You’d probably find a well-worn thesaurus on Stephanie Meyer’s desk.
I agree with FBR. It’s obvious this is Stephanie Meyer’s first book. She over uses the same adjectives and it gets frustrating. I read them and that was about it I don’t hate them but I would never spend time from my life reading them again. Also I’ve noticed that the people who read these and actually enjoy them are teen girls who have never read a novel before in their lives or only a cheesy shallow romance at best. The book was dumb but not worth getting worked up about. So the author wrote a shallow story. Like that’s never happened before. No one is making you like it or even read it so let the people who enjoy entertain themselves any everyone else move on with their lives.
Hell, I noticed that for some reason she knows the word clandistine yet not statuesque.
Also she makes a science fail in the third book. Somebody needs to explain to her, and quite clearly her blind/deaf editor, that when it comes to magnets opposites do not repel each other they attract. And unless Bella has super conducting electro kitchen magnets, being able to just barely hold two of them together with both hands means that you should probably take wild uncontrolable flight in a gentle breeze.
I think it is important for you all to know that you are very much mistaken about Mormonism. I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and if you really want to know what our religion is all about, please go to lds.org, mormon.org, find some missionaries, or read the Book of Mormon. We do not think colored people are evil because of the mark of Cain. We do not believe in polygamy. In fact, anyone who was once Mormon started practicing polygamy, they get excommunicated from the church. We believe in a loving Heavenly Father, in the true and living Jesus Christ who suffered for our sins, and we believe in the Book of Mormon and the Bible. Our church is known for doing good throughout the world, and though there are LDS are mean or racist or don’t immoral, that doesn’t make them the epitome of our church. This church has made me happier than I can ever express, and I know in my whole mind, heart, and soul that it is true.
I only read the first Twilight book, and wasn’t impressed so I didn’t finish them. I did not actually see much in it that reality to Mormonism, so don’t make that an excuse for not liking the books. If you think the books are stupid, don’t blame Mormons. We can’t control what every member of our church does, just like any other church in the world unless they live in Communism (which is a completely different story). I strongly recommend that you look into the facts about the LDS church before saying things that you know absolutely nothing about.
jeez i think your pressing your religon on us
I for one am an Atheist. I do not really have the desire to find out more about LDS [no offense].
I read Twilight because everyone else in my grade did, and I wanted to find out what all the hype was all about. I proceeded to read all four books, half of Midnight Sun [online], and The Host.
I still haven’t found out what all the hype was about.
The books are meant to look similar… probably
Well, when I say meant to;
The hands round the apple thing is religious symbolism.
Since the Lewis book is religion based, and Meyer is religious herself, it kind of makes sense.
It does to me anyway
I mean seriously. Everyone is looking out for Twilight anymore. Someone even wondered if there should be a copyright for Twilight’s image. That’s laughable.
Are they going to sue anyone in a picture for randomly holding an apple? No more apples in still life paintings?
AAHHH
No its not copywritable because of it being a stock image.
It was there for people to use, and a lot of people can use it.
That’s why C.S. and Meyer both have it.
They don’t own it.
The artist or company who originally came up with that image owns it and the person who deals with the book covers, pays for the image.
Dude.
Stop freaking out over this.
twilight is a really good book.
Negative
I’m pretty sure that it should be Twilight looks like C. S. Lewis. he most definitely came before twilight.
Actually, that book is a compilation of C.S. Lewis works. It was published in 2007, while Twilight was published in 2005.
simple as this:
the original coveer of twilight is the apple thing twilight (including the cover) came out in 2005
Words 2 live by came ot in 1950. they canged the cover in 2007 to the apple thing
u people are retards
I’m getting really tired of seeing your comments. I don’t know how old you are, but it seems like you shouldn’t be allowed on the computer.
It’s as “simple as this:” If you can’t spell “changed” or “cover” correctly, you are in no position to call anybody a retard.
I actually have nothing to add to that. Good job.
yup thay sure r
I personally think that the general image of the apple being held in the hands is rather overdone, and as an artist I believe that it, like the ring in the center of a book to create a heart, that maybe we should stop trying to repeat images that people use all the time becaues after a while they get rather boring.
I must throw my own little thing about Twilight in here, freedom of speech and all. However, I must say that I think my copy of Twilight is the greatest copy ever. I bought it, took it home, burned it, then used to ashes in a painting I was working on. I guess I can say that it was the most helpful waste of money ever.
The only difference is that the first one is actually decent.
I said this once I’ll say it again; The first one is just a collection of work by C.S.Lewis (Drawings,Notes etc…).It was published after Twilight and was put together by some man.
Oh yea, I do agree, she used a lot of the same adjectives, but it was an enjoyable book. Many people just bash it because it’s in the bright ass spotlight of the media…
ya,i like the book.
everyone does the same thing if everyone likes it then people hate on it,
idc what people say about it everyone is intitled 2 thier own opinions.if i like it then i cant help it. i dont over obsesse and talk about it 24/7
I love the books, but yes, I agree, I hate the way she uses the same words over and over again… like “Chagrin”.
WTF is wrong with you? We don’t hate it because it’s popular, we hate it because it’s glorified fanfiction!
This should be in the failblog section, cause Twilight fails.
Amen!
this book is good it deff shouldnt be in the fail section i rly like the books
Attention all Twilighters! If you want to be taken seriously by people who have analyzed the books while we read them, then you must state your opinion in a manner where it can be read with out the use of spellcheck and freetranslation.com
*without
okay y’all just need to calm dowwnnn.
there is a reason why the images are similar.
both of these books have whats called a “stock image” on the front.
both authors/publishers, what have you, decided “well hey, why spend a trillion more dollars on this book by hiring some uberly expensive artist to design my book cover. why not just find an image that’s unuversal and CHEAP!”
so yea, you might be angry that Stephanie “copied” C.S. Lewis, but in reality, she didn’t. She used a stoek image. And so did he.
I can’t spell. Don’t make fun of me. =[
Wow. So, let me get this straight.
People are going to extremes to hate people who are going to extremes loving this book?
Honestly, I bet you all like pretty dumb things, too. This is clearly a book geared towards teenage girls, and that’s the audience who reads it. So you don’t have to love Twilight, but it seems pretty ridiculous to hate it.
true!
Ok you all suck. I love Twilight. It’s like THE best book and movie EVER. Though I will admit, they make Edward look really gay. And that’s a lot coming from a huge Twilight fan!!!
That’s because the actor is a homosexual.
damn you Twilight >.< QUIT STEALING OTHER PEOPLES WORK
ouch people ouch. i lurve twilight!! most people give up after twilight except if u read all of them and Midnight Sun then u will luv them. How cum the jokes r always on edward and nver on Bella?? she is bad as well!! she is moany, insecure and soooo many other things?? but people still like her as a character. i o too because she does hav a good side.
i don’t think SM or Atom(who publish the book) would hav known about this book. Anyway they couldn’t be more different. apart from the whole twi/adam/eve kinda thing.
Stop picking on twilight!!!! Is it the only book in the universe that u don’t like?
Anyway tbh u guys r more sad than we r because there aren’t many twi-forums but u made loads of hater ones. thats sad dude.
yayayayayaayayayayayayayayay u are right the book rock
Bahaha! You said “how cum”
Are you sure you should be on the internet without Mommy and Daddy’s permission?
u sure u dont need permission 2 wright like us cuz u still call them mommy and daddy!lol
jokes on u not so funny when the jokes played on u is it!!!!
or r u 2 stupd that u cant understand what r,u,or stupd means!!!it means are,you,stupid
Joke’s on me for being intelligent! D’oh! *smacks forehead* And here I was thinking that typing literate sentences and actually making SENSE here would make me seem more smarter-er than you…oh, wait! It DOES!
I read all the books. I still don’t like Twilght.
No, it isn’t the only book I hate. I wasn’t fond of Lord of the Flies of the boigraphy of Capone. However I will continue to pick on Twilight as nothing actually negative will ever come from it unless those who see this are prone to overreaction. I have a Constitutional right to say or write what I wish as long as it is in the spirt of good fun and nobody gets physically hurt.
thank you!!!!
to me twilights ok.
but i dont talk about it none stop!
Alright. First off, I DID read all four books. And Midnight Sun. AND The Host. And I still hate the series. I don’t “luv” them. Secondly, there are plenty of jokes on Bella, who is a Mary-Sue/self-insert of Stephenie Meyer. Literary term, look it up. Thirdly, the C.S. Lewis book was published AFTER Twilight, so, no they didn’t know about it.And, really, there’s nothing wrong with it. They look similar, but they’re by no means the same image. So, no legal action can be taken. Fourthly, no, but it has a lot of hype it doesn’t deserve. It’s crap writing. Stephenie Meyer has the literary talent of an unripe tomato. And, yes, I know about the Twilight hate forums and I agree, that is sad. If you have nothing better to do with your life but moan about a CHILDREN’S book series, you’ve failed.
Very good points. Hip, hip, hooray to you.
However, the “Midnight Sun” Stephenie Meyer allowed her fans to read, was only a draft, very much unfinished, and full of typos!
I actually enjoyed “The Host”, since it was nothing to do with Twilight, unless you count the fact that it is based on the movement of souls between bodies. I thought that the writing in “The Host” was much better than that in Twilight, but by no means perfect.
I also think you’ve (whether inadvertantly or not) hit upon the main reason for Meyer’s writing style. It’s a “CHILDREN’S” book. Personally though, I wouldn’t let a child below the age of at least 13 read past “New Moon”. Meyer is writing from the perspctive of a 17 year old girl, probably to a predominantly 14-17 year old audience.
PS : There’s no need to be so patronising, “self-insert of Stephenie Meyer” is pretty self- explanitory.
Actually, to the commenter my comment was in response to, I think it was necessary to explain “self-insert” further.
ha thats wonderful
Twilight is the best im deeply in love with it Edward is sooooo nice and a PERFECT boy friend !!!!!!! LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
wow someone stalks robert
In case you didnt know thats his real name
Fictional Character!
Forget that! HE IS DEAD YOU F@&#ING NECROPHELIAC!!!
He’s abusive (more kinds of abuse than just physical) That sound perfect?
Sometimes I wonder if those messages are actually anti-twilighters being sarcastic. Then I remember that most Twilight fans are stupid enough to actually type near-sentences like that.
I stopped reading vampire books after Anne Rice wrote her last one. Boo Twilight and any other stupid attempt vampire based stories.
Okay look here… Twilight is not a vampire book. There are no vampires in Twilight. There are only sparkling gay fairies.
“Look here”
That made me laugh…in a good way. It reminded me of my Nan, who says “look here” when she’s telling us off for being cheeky!
OmG yOu HaVe No IdEa WhAt YoU gUyS r TaLkInG aBoUt OkAy TwIlIgHt ToTaLlY rOcKs!!! and if it wasnt why would you spend your time actually writing and reading this article?!
Should children your age be using Mommy and Daddy’s computer without their permission?
and how old are you?????????????
probly old enough to be your grandpa compared to you
Ha you are a fail
Fourteen, thanks. But age is just a number. Failing grades in English, however, are in fact letters and they do matter. So…study hard, try to get an education more advanced than that of a third-grader, and maybe you’ll be taken seriously, here!
ur a f***n @**
u pick on other people because u have nothing better to do in your life!
Just so YOU know, “U” and “UR” are not words.
its called the internet, grammar is nowhere near essential. btw believe it or not the books are ok, but anything done to death by fangirls gets annoying, the movies certainly didnt help either, they arent even like the books anyway…
twilight can go set itself on fire. anyways CS Lewis’s books are always good, i’ll have to read that one.
eff that. twilight looks like c.s. lewis. a table of contents in a lewis book is deeper than the entire twilight series.
HELL-YEAH!!!
Cyberspace high-five
hey this book is so cool and fun to read it is so colllllllllllll lololo i love this book…………………………… i love it
hey i love this bok twilight rock
You two go get fixed. We don’t need your bad genes making our children stupid enough to say rock as opposed to rocks or misspelling a word as simple as book. And what the Hell is col.
1 of all ur out of style
2 of all u use 2 misspell words 2 so shut …….
up
You wrote two sentences, both of which contained curse words.
You too, fail at English.
They don’t need their tubes tied. I think it’s safe to say most Twilight fans will never reproduce with out the help of being spayed or neutered.
this book rocks i love it twilight
its not copywritable because of it being a stock image.
It was there for people to use, and a lot of people can use it.
That’s why C.S. and Meyer both have it.
They don’t own it.
The artist or company who originally came up with that image owns it and the person who deals with the book covers, pays for the image.
Way to copy and paste dumbass.
If you look closely the image isn’t the same. They are very similar, but there are slight differences in the positioning of the hands and things of that nature. Also, the reason they are so similar is because they both represent the apple in the Garden of Eden.
Yeah and the Bible was written way longer ago than C.S. Lewis or Twilight or the Book of Morman. And the Bible rocks, man! It’s awesome!
Is this the stupidest thread anyone has ever read or what?
I’m leaving now.
By the way, I saw the movie Twilight and I thought it was really funny. I laughed a lot and so did my husband.
(My daughter and her friend did too, and they read the books, also. Which they also found very funny.)
eh?
wow.
The reason they found it funny was the same reason people find the movie Dumb and Dumber (with characters vastly more intelligent then the Twilight [Series of large amounts of paper containing written text all glued together at a collective side]) funny, everything was just so stupid it had to be funny.
I’d rather read the C.S.Lewis book anyday of the week over Twilight.
Yeah lindsey we’re all real dumb. And we get so confused over two completely different books just because we see an image that’s similar to the twilight book. And we also eat with our feet, we can’t say complete sentances, and we drool all over ourself. Thank you.
Way to be self-aware!
The reason they look similar is because the apple in both pictures is ment to represent the apple that Eve ate in The Garden Of Eden. On the Twilight cover it is the forbidden fruit, on the Words To Live By cover it is a representation of religion that many people recognize. Just think about it if you aren’t understanding yet.
Actually I must say that in this instance you can not talk about anyone being a retard without being highly hypocritical. Oh, wait, you probably don’t know what that means…hmmmm how to dumb it down for you…YOU are the retard, not us. If you had actually read the book you would realize the underlying themes are mature and require a certain amount of intelligence to properly comprehend. Also, if you can’t emphasize something without swearing, i recommend you just SHUT UP!
I don’t even think she can understand that.
You also might want to point out that Lewis is dead and that any thinking on his part would be a feat as yet unparrelleled.
Ah, I get the apple reference now. Still, isn’t it a little ironic that a christian book has that in common with a totally non-christian book that’s considered by some super catholics as evil because it’s associated with vampires and the devil? It’s just kind of funny to think that these same ideas can be shared by those who seem to believe in completely different things. (P.S, The author of twilight is actually very morman, so i’m not saying she believes in that whole vampire’s connection with the devil thing, and neither do I)
Meyer has said that the book covers have nothing to do with the books themselves probably because they are stock images, but I totally see the Garden of Eden and Forbidden Fruit thing. However, the publishers of the C.S. Lewis book, probably did look at that image and say “hey, that’s a christian image.” Or something like that you know. But the apple thing is pretty cool.
im not retarted!!!!! (im just realllly slow.)
Again, way to be self aware. At least you know you’re stupid. By the way, the “Twilight Fangirls are retards” point is proven thanks to you.
I love Twilight. EDWARD IS SO HOT!!!
Of course he is.
Pay attention!
He’s freezing.
He’s gay.
HE’S DEAD!!!
correction: he is UN-dead
LOL, I’ve seen that already.
It’s pretty sad that a great intellectual like Lewis is compared in anyway to a novel that is comparable to horny teenage fan fiction.
A poorly-written horny teenage fanfiction.
If you really believe that Twilight is for horny teenagers than your wrong. The main principles in the book are how she is madly in love with him as a person and she feels that she doesn’t deserve him because of his looks. Really, have you read the series? You sound like little unintellectual fools when you say such sentences as that without any grounds to state your accusation.
So I take it you’re a teenage girl, then?
“than your wrong” What about my wrong?
“she feels that she doesn’t deserve him because of his looks” Because that’s not shallow at all!
the Lewis one is totally made up. very, very sucky photoshopping on it!
someone doesn’t know his image editing. looks like he used MS Painter! XD
like, if there really was a Lewis book like that one it’d totally have a whole different font on the cover… not anything like that. looks SO unprofessional…
lol
Um, not to burst your bubble but I’ve seen the Lewis book with that cover in Word. Just thought I’d point it out. (I’m trying not to be like on the the brainless idiots on this page paying each other out over Twilight. So sorry if it does come across as mean.)
WHAT A COPY CAT! C. S. LEWIS BEAT STEPHANIE BY 18 YEARS!!!
omg peeps and poops
where are the twilight saga readers
im not a fan but i think people shouldn’t criticize books so badly
people have different tastes and opinions
its just…uncool
if u don’t like it say ‘ i don’t like it’ and then just shut up ok!
people are allowed 2 have their own opinions
*One
it sounds sooo weird. like,
“OMG! Im a vampire! yaaaay! I bite you now.heehee.”
lol it just sounds stupid like all of my other friends thinnk is cool but i think sucks…
sorry. said it wrong. all of the other THINGS my friends like.
such as lip gloss…..
and purses…..
and manners……
and clothes…….
WHO NEEDS IT? im a major tomboy.
twilight is a realy good out going book i encourage any form of book that gets our teens reading again
i has a very easy storie line wich make you want to be a part of were it takes you i have read every book twice
if you have nothing nice to say. Say nothing at all
you people critize a book that has sold over 42,million world wide copies with translations into 37 different languages around the globe and now is out on dvd and soon coming to the big screens is newmoon on november the 20 2009 thats very complished in my mined and any one says other wise i would encourage you two do betta
the apple
well, the apple is always described as the forbidden fruit. The two hands holding it are pale, like Edward’s. Edward is holding the “forbidden fruit” out to Bella.
Bella is like the apple. Edward is so strong he could easily crush that apple in his hands and he’s holding it very carefully so he wont. He doesn’t want to kill her
the accual picture of the apple of the frount cover of mrs c.s lewis is a black apple hanging from a tree
thank you
very mutchhhhh
If you have nothing intelligent to say, say nothing at all. Please. The masters of the English language are rolling over in their graves and moaning, “DEAR GOD MAKE IT STOP!”
You took the time to make an emo interpretation which has the effects of ipecac syrup, so why not try to pull together some sort of cohesive and semi-intellectual response with corrected grammar and punctuation. Then perhaps we might listen to you.
Forget moaning. They’re screaming.
Twilight is trash.
And the author’s an idiot.
Have you read her descriptive language. It’s like you’re actually with Bella in the situation that she’s in.
Nooo… It’s more like SMeyer is raping the thesaurus to sound less like an infant sitting at a type-writer.
Jack, it sounds more like you have an addiction to pissing off twilight fans at any chance you get. I have read all “SMeyers” work and i would call myself a fan. If you have a problem with her work i suggest you write your own book to let out your problems. Same to you Sarah.
I’m sorry, but is your name “Charisma.anus”?
for all you people hating on twilight and its fans, have you even read the books?… if you haven’t, dont cuss out and hate on the people who have and actually like the books… grow up.
dont judge a book on its cover OR fans…
DERP DERP DERP! I CAN MAEKS WERDS! DERP DERP DERP! TYPE TYPE TYPE I HAS KEEBORD AND I DOESNT AFRAID OF ANYTHING DERRRRRRRP!
Actually I have nothing to add to that.
Shocking.
Brilliant!
Samc:
Yes, I’ve read the books, and I still maintain that they are, in fact, trash.
Let’s take this bit by bit, shall we?
Mary Sue—wait, I mean, Bella Swan. Bitches and moans that she’s very plain looking, yet, inexplicably, most of the male cast of the series thinks she’s ever so beautiful. After all, that’s what the name means; “beautiful swan.” Snails on drugs have clearer thought processes than Ms. Swan, who manipulates her friends and family in order to get closer to the ONE THING she wants in her life, Edward. Bella’s seventeen and has no desire to do anything with her life besides be with him. No college, no job, no anything. She’s also willing to give up living to be one of the hawt vampires. Isn’t this a lovely message to send your kiddies? “Being undead is better than being alive and human in every single way, and everyone will like you better because you’re graceful and beautiful?” Let’s not forget how Edward is abusive to her and she LIKES it. He comes to watch her sleep before she even knows she likes him and she is flattered. He batters her during sex and she’s totally cool with it. He screws with her mind in New Moon by making everything he gave her disappear and just dropping her after she hyperventilates at the mere thought of him disappearing. It’s abuse. Twilight romantifies abuse and sends the message that all that’s important in life is twoo wuv. And one more thing on the subject of Bella… Edward can’t read Bella’s mind because she doesn’t HAVE one.
Edward Cullen. What exactly are his faults? Besides the fact that he has no personality? He’s a vampire. Right, so, what difficulties does that give you? This I learned from Twilight: 1. You glitter in the sunlight. Hmm. The way it’s portrayed in the book and movie makes it seem like automatic incineration is just a slap on the wrist compared to that. 2. You are cursed with awesome. Oh NOES, I’m a horrible monster, and I could be using my superhuman qualities to do something useful, but instead I’ll just sit in a corner and brood about how sucky unlife is, and go to high school because when you’re 108 years old, high school is where it’s at! And you know unlimited time and money as long as you don’t jump into a fire is the pits. 3. You lust for human blood. Oh but not special Eddykins, no, he doesn’t thirst for much blood, just the person who he goes to stare at while she sleeps. And again, this isn’t portrayed as creepy at all. I really wish he’d tear a throat out or something, just for the hell of it.
On the subject of that, can I say something? Sexing a vampire. Really? Being a teenage girl myself, I don’t see the allure of sticking a glittery popsicle down there. It just seems uncomfortable to me. Anyway, moving on~
Jacob Black. Werewolf—sorta. I believe I saw on the Twilight Sucks board an awesome little picture of Jacob telling Renesmee something along the lines of “I know this is awkward, since before I kind of wanted to kill your dad, but to be fair that was only because I also wanted to get naked with your mom, so, will you marry me?” Out of the whole series, he and Alice were the only two I could be okay with, except for the teensy little fact that he imprinted on a frickin’ baby. I know it’s Bella’s baby so she’s a speshul little snowflake and all, but he just laid a claim on a baby. And everyone is cool with it. Please tell me I’m not the only one to see something horribly wrong with this situation.
On Twilight in general, it’s a mind-numbing thing that serves as guilty pleasure for a lot of people. And that would be perfectly all right if it weren’t so popular and you didn’t have schoolgirls (and some boys) mooning over it, constantly. Bella is a horrible role model. Yes, it’s great that people are reading, but why shouldn’t they be able to pick up a book whose protagonist isn’t preaching the message of “get nearly killed and be pretty—it’s a recipe for a happy life!”
It’s also disturbing in some ways. Don’t get me started on the whole uterus-munching bit in Breaking Dawn. Speaking of munching human parts, when Bella transforms into a vampire—and you will notice that none of this is a spoiler, since EVERYONE knew it was coming—it was almost a relief because you’d think that human killing was imminent. She’s a vampire. They’re VAMPIRES and yet there’s no throat ripping. But no. She’s PERFECTLY controlled. Mary Sue strikes again. It’s annoying as hell.
As to the Twilight Sucks site, it’s not ALL based on Twilight. If you take the time to go there, they discuss all sorts of things, not just merely the toilet paper pile that is Twilight. And the majority of the people there tend to be intellectual.
I’m almost done, but one more thing… before the butthurt fans start telling me how I read too much into it and have no life for even typing this, I’m a very avid reader myself, and hopefully a novelist at some point. I like literature. Twilight is a horrible excuse for literature, and I just thought I would point out a few (and yes, this is just a FEW) reasons for that.
Twilight is trash.
And the author’s an idiot.
I’m in love.
You, my dear, win at life. Love to see the Twilighters try to come up ith a legitimate argument to that.
Apparently the Twilight author gave a bunch of money to Prop 8? She tried to keep it pretty quiet, but the donor list is public domain, and it got out..
Pretty bad f**king move considering the large gay following the books have (and quite frankly the male cast border on homoerotic)
I can’t believe a cover caused this kind of fighting. Oh wait yes I can because fans can’t allow a simple opinion against their books in and anti-twilighters (i am one of you) get to angry to listen. If anyone wants to chat about their hate of this awful series go to the anti-twilght movement-because real vampires don’t sparkle.
WHOO!
By the way there is no such things as real vampires, Arie!!!!! By the was I am one of those Twilight fans
By the was?
So what if the books are good or bad, who cares!!! This website is about lolz and funny stuff. NOT people who are going to yell at eachother just because they have different points of views. So please, just stop and enjoy the site. It doesn’t matter if you like the book or not.
Wow! People these days.
There are a couple things stupid and annoying about this.
okie dokie!
one! Its a book. DUH! If you don’t like then you shouldn’t have anything to do with it. Right? Well I think so.
Two! It was her first book series. OF COURSE she isn’t supposed to be the best at it.
three! Stop picking fights over the computer. Its stupid and you don’t get all your stress out unless you are actually fighting with the real person.
And there are many other books out there so don’t let out most of your anger out on one book and the series it is pointless and I am pretty sure you have something better to do with you life.
So who gives a flying cow crap on who likes the book or not. It isn’t going to do anything to anybody if all you do is might on this stupid site. Just move on people.
BYE!
I agree with you there. Arguing on the internet is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you’re still retarded.
My thoughts exactly!! Though as someone who has worked with developmentally disabled adults, I would have worded it a bit more politically correct.
Awwwww. I love your peace-making.
I totally agree with sweetnaenae. No one is forcing anyone to read Twilight. If you don’t like it, here’s a solution for you: DON’T READ IT! Arguing over how it sucks and doesn’t suck isn’t ever going lead anywhere. What’s the point in trying (so pointlessly) to change someone’s opinion on a book? Why would you care if that person likes the book or not?
The order thing: the order in which the pictures are posted on the website do not matter at all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They BOTH look like EACH OTHER. There is not ‘better’ or ‘older’ involved.
Saying the order depends on what you are looking at.
I would just like to point out that none of the people supporting Twilight on here can spell. So they obviously would think it was a good book, since they have the intelligence of a second grader.
Twilight is a crappy book. All her ideas are unoriginal, her characters serve no purpose because there is no plot. Seriously, Twi-tards, what’s the plot? Like, OMG, Bella and Edward get marrrrried!!!111!!!!! And you spend four books waiting for it. I’ve read the books, and it’s nothing but a bunch of crap. I’ve read light novels(A form of Japanese novels that are a dime a dozen) and fan fiction better than Twilight. Her vampires can’t even be called vampires. They’re pansies.
Go get a life, a boy friend, and a dictionary. Then you might realize how stupid the books are.
A good suggestion for vampire books would be something by Anne Rice. But then again, her vampires might scare the hell out of you middle school failures.
Middle school failure is a bit harsh, and not all of us can’t spell.
I study English language and literature A-Level, and am going on to study at University. Your sweeping generalisation that we’re all what you might call unintelligent, is actually quite insulting. Yes I have read all of the Twilight books, and yes I enjoyed them, but I will also admit that Meyer’s writing is not necessarily the “hypnotic, dreamy prose” that one review made it out to be. In fact, I’d go further to say the writing style isn’t brilliant. But, it is mainly aimed at teenage girls and since she’s not a writer by trade, and this is her first, very rushed, attempt at writing a series, you could cut her some slack- plus, it can’t have been that bad if it got through the publishing process.
It’s not aimed at academics or adults, so if you’re either, you don’t have to like it.
And yes, I have read Anne Rice’s books too, and yes I will also admit that they are a lot, lot better Meyer’s work. But she’s also written a lot more than Meyer has.
Ooh. Not only is SMeyer an illiterate, thesaurus-killing, arrogant brat… she’s a plagiarist. Whoo. But we all knew that the only thing original about her was her breed of “vampires”.
Ummm
Twilight looks like C.S. Lewis book.
GrammarNazi..your use of english..just hot. seriously.
Well, at least CS lewis could write….
u g l y
Love the comments.
Don’t mind me, I’m just posting on a very heated webpage.
Negative and Kayla? Okay. We get the point your in love with these books. You don’t have to state that by using curse words. If you really want to change their opinions or better yet make twilight have a better reputation, then i suggest you use literate sentences and actual facts. Show them Why you like twilight, not that you hate those who don’t. I for one am a fan of her work, but if anyone isn’t, why waste your time typing on here?
Twilight is awful.
okay, i am not a huge fan of twilight. but in defense, who cares if there are a million fans? obviously they like the book. whatever you say wont stop them from being crazy fans. and plus, its a damn book. you dont need to critisize it. grow up.
Actually you mean… “Twilight book totally looks like C.S. Lewis book.”
You know, since C.S. Lewis series was before twilight. Unless that cover of C.S Lewis was in a newer edition. So, that would be the correct term you would use…
Twilight is not for suckers it is the best book ever! i bet u never have even read it so dont say that! and yes i am getting mad and defending it. if u are leaving very bad comments about twilight let me note it is a opinion and u guys are crape
“You guys are crepe”? I am a tasty French pancake! Yum!
And I HAVE read it, and I can assure you that it is NOT the best book ever. Far from it, actually.
For someone who takes the rip out of other people’s spelling, you really should learn to read. If you could read you could quote properly. What was actually written was “crape” , which, I hope was not meant to mean the type of paper, but was a misspelling of the word “crap”.
I do agree with you on the fact that Twilight isn’t the best book ever. I too have read it, enjoyed it, and then gone on to criticise it.
But isn’t the craft paper spelled “crepe” too? Ahh, I’m so ill-informed in the area of arts and crafts. -_-’
And I know that he/she wrote “crape”, but I thought French foods were much more appropriate.
I read Twilight and was hooked…for a week. I then re-read it, watched the movie, and realized what “crape” it was.
I’m basically going to take back everything I just said!
I bow to your superior knowledge of how to spell the various types of paper. Yes it is “crepe”. I am filled with “chagrin” (a word I now actually hate because of Twilight) after making a complete arse of myself.
I laughed at the first comment too though, by Isabell. Her English and grammar really aren’t the best. But enough about that.
I apologise for having a go
Twilight sucks vampires dont sparkle and edward says I’m following you but you should stay away from me its weird
Kayla baby vampiers dont sparkle and edward says im following you but you should stay away from me and vampires die in light
hmm twilight totally sounds like trueblood
twilight?.. unoriginal??! my mind is blown
Stephenie Meyer= No creativity… except 4 the fact tht she could ruin vampires by makin them romantic and makin em sparkle. I hate twilight.
and we all hate you so….id stfu!
I like twilight. I will agree they aren’t the best written compared to my other favorites but I do appreciate the story. I think she wrote the book for a certain audience and achieved that. In the end, she is the one with 4 great selling books and with all the money in the bank. At least applaud her for her ability to get people obsessed.
BTW, the first thing I thought of when I saw this ‘look-a-like’ was how many OTHER times I have seen the apple and the hand picture? It’s not original and I don’t think either author should be blamed for that fact. It’s a nice picture that has many different interpretations behind it depending on the story or idea you are trying to present.
My personal opinion is that everyone is entitled to an opinion or a good debate. But when you start personally attacking someone just because you feel so strongly about something then you take it to a different level beyond a website that brings out the similarities in pictures.
Like I said I’m a twilight fan. I like the storyline and I believe that Meyer has her own style going on. I don’t think she’s creating a new trend but it works for her and she’s working it.
=)
Eh yeah, I do give her credit 4 being successful… but seriously making vampires sparkle? I really hate that idea. And vampires were never really meant to be a huge romantic thing.
I work at a bookstore and a few of us found the cs lewis book and were like “whoa… really?… youre kidding?…” it happens a lot though, its pretty funny in cases like this i.e. christian book vs vampire book
i think it’s ridiculous that this one little picture sparked all of this. everyone has an opinion, so, to me, people are looking like idiots when they say “Twilight is the best book ever” or “Twilight sucks.” before you say how you feel, try avoiding declaring what’s apparently correct and put “in my opinion” before your sentences.
that is exactly how i feel… i started reading all these comments and like 75% of the people arnt even talking about the pictures… everyone has their own opinion. its like food, not everyone likes the same things!!!
Haha, oh my God. This is terribly funny, if a little sad. You say you aren’t crazy but you type in all caps, you misspell people, annoying, and though, and no one is forcing you to read all of these comments. I lol’d.
“This CS Lewis person”…? Really?!
wow. twilight bashers. i dont have a positive or negative thing to say about twilight. but anyone who takes on a bashing fad is a jackass.
All of you are idiots!! Twilight is awesome!! Ur just too immature to like something that’s actually popular.
Your name is Mrs. Edward Cullen. Therefore, I am obliged to tell you what a lunatic you are.
Your name is Annie Crimefighter’s Subconscious has 50 points. Therefore, I am obliged to tell you what a major dork/geek/nerd/gaywad/pathetic troll you are. Thank you very much.
god damn haters…cant you ppl get a life? i mean rele…if u hated twilight THAT much youd just stop talking abt it and move on to another topic! gawd…ppl just have TOO much free time if ur still sittin here hatin things…
i really hope you look like a troll…cuz ur as stupid as one!
The apple thing is overused by Christio-maniacs like Meyer and Lewis. I am surprised they don’t all just sue each-other’s butts off.
i love twilight im on the second book
No, the twilight book looks like the words to live by book
Stephenie Meyer is an unoriginal b****.
wow…. theres a lot of comments
bark you are so so stupit and your name is weyerd
?????????????????????????????????????????????now i what to say goodbye???????
Twilight is AWESOME! ONE OF THE BEST BOOKS EVER
As she laughs all the way to the bank…move over I am going to cash in to and you can dismantle me.
I you hate Twilight so much. Quit talking about it.
Something better:
\Does anywone love the Zutara couple????????????????
wow edward sucks so bad i’m not publishing midnightsun anymore!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1. Vampires are not real. Anyone can come up with their own version.
2. Edward is not abusive towards Bella at all.
3. If you hate Twilight so much why would you read all the books?
4. If a plumber is Christian does that make him a Christian plumber? No. Just because Stephenie Meyer is a Mormon does not mean she writes for her faith.
5. If you hate Twilight so much why would you read all the books?
Haha Fail. I didn’t mean to repeat that.
Oh my god, Everyone shut up and go eat some pancakes.