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Wow… tell me this isn’t on purpose…
It isn’t on purpose…you’re welcome. (but it is the same drawing)
Well, it was intentional to save money, but it wasn’t intentional for them to get “caught.” I r in ur interwebz, exposin your templaets
they’re both by the same artist?
haha yeah, pretty much…
It is on purpose of course- notice they’re both Disney movies. Everything’s so perfect how couldn’t they be on purpose?!?
Thank you for not being first.
actually, he is.
isnt it funny how the caption says mosley
no.
I thought so too. I guess there are a lot of stupid people that didn’t catch that though.
Mogley. yeah.
its MOWGLI!!
In order to save time and money, several scenes were recycled from one movie to another by the Disney animators. Most people knew that already. I’m sure this didn’t mean to spoil the fantasy for everybody else that wasn’t observant enough to figure it out.
Dude, have you saw the video up there?
If that is so they’re probably homeless by now..
Dude, are you old enough to remember cell animation?
Aside from the single scene from Beauty and the Beast in that video, every movie was made in the time where hand drawn cells were used to create all Disney animation. There were no fancy CG computer programs that did the work to speed up the process like we have today. Cell animation is extremely time consuming, which is the main reason animation studios have abandoned the use of cell animation for CG. All the cartoons on TV right now, they are all made in Flash or Flash type programs.
Disney wasn’t the only studio to recycle animation. All studios did it. The only difference, Disney’s held to a different standard.
Comics strips do this too, particularly Brenda Starr.
Comics strips still do it. Ever read Garfield?
Good call, Orlanda. Well put.
Word.
*seen
Urm, You’re wrong.
it used the same drawings to save money for disney… that is a proven fact
yah thats pretty silly, they just want money.
its kinda stupid.
interestingly enough…..the 2 characters are voiced by the same kid…Bruce Reitherman (son of director Wolfgang Reitherman who directed both movies). Bruce gave up acting in the 70’s and turned to producing/directing/writing. mostly nature shows.
Ted Mosley, Architect!
This one should be on failblog too.
Ted “Mosby”, architect.
It’s “Mosley” as a joke because of the wrong name in the image, “smort” guy.
Alonso Mosley, FBI.
Are all you guys named Mosley?
… Why would you even notice these things?
http://www.slightlywarped.com/crapfactory/curiosities/2009/disneyrecycled.htm
Check it out, it shows other reused stills.
The common denominator in this thread is that none of the people commenting have tried to draw/illustrate/color an animation. The scenes depicted are nearly identical in composition and motion, but the actual artistic drawings (characters, environments, even slight difference in “camera” angle) are completely different. Those are equally time-consuming, but for the sake of making the animation look “smooth”, the cells are replicated so the timing feels right and works out correctly with the music. It’s a lot easier to adjust the soundtrack to match the timing of the frame rate, so if the formula for “motion per inch per frame” is already good from a previous movie why screw it up?
In any case, the dedicated animators, colorists, and other effects artists put in just as much time detailing new characters and backgrounds in the “copy” movie as the “original”. They are all original. If you disagree, then quit using the copy & paste functions on your blessed time-saving computer.
I see someone’s a fellow artist in this thread.
And if for some reason you aren’t an artist, I thank you on behalf of my community to see someone who truly appreciates the work behind the finished product.
What’s lame about it isn’t the time spent, but the fact that they’re so similar in end result. I sympathize with the need to save money, but as the video shows, there are full minute-plus scenes duplicated in choreography and angles. It has nothing to do with the artists “copping out,” it’s the product copping out. Seeing these side by side make you feel like you’ve just been watching the same movie with a different skin, and any significant amount of effort by the artists (who no one is debating are good) means nothing if it’s a remix passed off as new material.
Did you notice the similarities when you saw the movies? or just when you say them side-by-side?
It’s like a magician’s trick
It’s only cheating if you get caught
aren’t all the stories we tell nowadays retellings of older ones? sure, putting something like that video together hurts and there may even be some feeling of betrayal there but it shouldn’t damper your enjoyment of a well done animation. like someone said, everyone has done it but Disney is just held to a higher standard.
Wow, so Gravity’s Rainbow is just a re telling of Jack and the Bean Stock? That explains a lot.
If by “full minute-plus” you mean bits and pieces here and there… And even if they re-use some of the choreography (even as much as 2 minutes in a 90-minute movie), it’s a little over-dramatic to say it’s “watching the same movie with a different skin.” Since when are movies all about choreography and not at all about plot? When you watch the celebration in Robin Hood, you’re probably not thinking hey, I think I saw that exact movement in Snow White.
Go to YouTube and search for “Disney Templates Fail”
Oops – the video above didn’t show up at first!
So… it’s been a day; we’re back to Disney TLLs again? Are you all that bored you have nothing better to do?!?!?!
No fail surely – but a fascinating TLL in my opinion.
Never realised it – makes total sense!
Disney reuses their artwork in several movies. I don’t blame them!
Can you imagine drawing every filmcell by hand? 26 cells per second?
You’ll notice that most of the “duplicate” scenes are from old movies. You’d do the same if you had to draw them all by hand.
Besides. Have you ever noticed them?
Personally, I have noticed a few (like Mowgli greeted by his wolfs, and Arthur from The Sword in the Stone greeted by his dog). But still… it doesn’t bother me.
I’ve always noticed it, even when I was little, particularly the scenes from Robin Hood, Jungle Book, The Aristocats, and the Sword in the Stone… can’t say it ever really bothered me, though.
I’ve noticed a few of them, but it was always kind of like a common thread running through the movies, tying them all together for me. It was never an irritant. It’s nice to know that a Disney Princess is a Disney Princess, you know?
Did that make any sense at all? It’s freakin’ early here and I haven’t had my caffeine yet.
This is interesting. Don’t blame them at all, hand drawing every frame would take forever.
I’m not sure I get how it was done.
Do they have like transparent rough sketches of each frame and gust pant them different for each movie?
I thought his name was Kristopher Robin in the original book. I’d check but my book fell apart when moving.
Seriously….do people who come up with these think they are clever?
Disney used a process called rotoscoping- one which the Disney studios used and added refinements to in order to create more lifelike animation. A real person is filmed doing the required moves and then animation is drawn over that live action footage, frame by frame. It’s not any less work to use the same rotoscoped dance routine; each frame still has to be hand drawn. It doesn’t diminish the artistry of the film, either, any more than two painters using the same model diminishes either work of art. There are no templates in the sense of modern digital animation and animators didn’t take the cells from a previous movie and repurpose them.
I just noticed this and was about to point out the rotoscoping, but you beat me to it by a day
Disney’s used rotoscoping since the earliest days, to capture human movement in various styles – usually with a specific character/scene action in mind; it would be a waste of time and resources to use that footage only once when it’s appropriate for different scenes in different films, especially back in the cell animation days.
I’m so glad someone else mentioned the rotoscoping. It was also expensive to do back in the day, if I recall correctly, so using it only once would have been a fiscal waste. Using it over again, especially the Snow White/Maid Marian scenes where the character looks entirely different is not a bad thing. It’s not like they were tracing their older works or anything, so I don’t see what’s so evil about this. Though certainly, I’m sure they hoped they would never get it shoved in their face like this.
Oh, I get it now. Thanks. That makes sense.
It would be cool to see the original footage.
Did you know there used to be penises on the castle in The Little Mirmaid? And there’s sex written in like every single Disney movie. And in Beauty and the Beast, the Red Blonde out of the three Blondes that follow Gustan or w/e around, her boobs bounce like a million times? Ooooh, and everyone wonders why Disneys little starletts are turning out to be little whores.
You sir are a troll. 1 that is just an illusion made by you. SEX never happened in a movie. It was the letters SFX in the lion king ONLY. and I dont really know about #3
Actually, no, number one is true, but only on the original packaging for the VHS tape. I have mine somewhere in storage, or else I’d whip it out, but yeah, on the original packaging for The Little Mermaid, one of the spires of the castle was a penis.
“or else I’d whip it out.”
blah
They’re both Disney, and this is exactly like how when Mowgli is tackled by a load of wolves is the same frames of animation as when Arthur in The Sword in the Stone is tackled by some dogs.
So that’s what Christopher Robin would look like in briefs. Helpful.
For those of you dissin’ the re-use of template/animation cells, trust me, if you had to hand draw/animate 30 cells/frames per 1 second of film, you’d be an idiot or a masochist not to do the same thing, and say what you will, but Disney animators were no idiots.
Don’t think you’d be a masochist…
The Disney version of Winnie-the-Pooh has to rank as one of the great cultural crimes of the 20th Century, and is the ultimate proof that the US is indeed the Evil Empire.
I like it!
but it looks fake, you sure you didn’t make that yourself?
Aren’t those called Easter Eggs? I noticed a few too, Ithink it’s cool
It’s Mogley, not Mosley.
FAIL – Mowgli, not Mosley or Mogley. Haven’t you ever read the book version?
Or the credits?
Keep dancin’ you crazy cats
I think it’s brilliant.
No one at Disney has ever denied the use of templates. In fact, there’s a whole attraction at Disney___ (oh crap, is it Land or World — they kinda run together after a while) that shows how they do it.
Disney is not being “busted” by this [now ancient] revelation. It’s just that every time someone new thinks they’ve discovered it, they have to put it up here.
MM isn’t a money grubbing rat — he’s just drawn that way. lol.
FURTHERMORE . . . while I do think it’s wonderful that Disney re-uses THEIR OWN work (because that means it’s ok if I do it too with my own work), I do draw the line at their underhanded schemes to rob the intellectual property of others and then use their mighty power to intimidate the injured parties.
Anyone ever read or heard of a book called Running Out of Time? Disney and Shyamalan STOLE the story from Margaret Peterson Haddix and used it as a template for the movie, The Village. I’m holding the book in my hand. It was published in 1995. In my other hand is the DVD of the Village, which came out in 2004. Of all the underhanded . . . They didn’t give her a dime and MNSh…head took all the credit for writing it! Oooh! As an author myself, that makes me SO MAD!!!
Paranoia much? Similar stories don’t always mean theft, and there are quite a few distinctions between the two stories once you get past the bare bones of an 1800s society living in modern day but apart from the modern world.
Granted I’m not saying you’re wrong per se, but do you have any proof? Anything other than a vague similarity that could be explained simply by people indepentently coming up with similar ideas?
She tried to sue them, but was threatened by their lawyers that it would take all her money and they would keep it in the courts for years and years. And it’s not just vague similarities. It’s the same story line exactly, all the way down to the girl having to leave her backpack at a certain place. She left to get medicine. The time-frame is the same. The premise is the same. Running Out of Time just doesn’t have monsters. They stole it. It’s plagiarism and just because Disney does it, doesn’t make it OK. Don’t try to defend them by calling ME paranoid.
I’m glad I stumbled upon this comment… Since I first saw The Village, I couldn’t get past the fact that I just KNEW I had read a book with the same exact story line. Even when I watched the movie, when the girl had to leave to get medicine, I knew exactly how it was going to end and what the big secret was. Now I know where I read it!
OMG theyre exactly the same right down to the little line on the twig by the leaves
I can’t blame them for reusing…hell i never noticed it, never would have. Maybe somebody has a little bit too much free time on thier hands, hmm?
omg ive totally noticed that over the years of watching that! i knew it!
ok wait. HIS NAME IS MOWGLI!!!!!!! pronounced (mow-gley)
There are lots of YouTubez about this…Disney is lazy.
I like the fact that original animation are being used by later artists to base newer characters upon, it means the effort put into the first drawer lives on so to speak.
Also as a little trivia, the person who provided the voice for Mowgli also provided the voice for Christopher Robin.
I haven’t seen anybody mention that most of the animation recycling came about in the 70’s… After Walt died… while the studio was facing bankruptcy. They needed more movies and quickly to keep afloat. This was one of the tools that saved Disney.
Good point! too true, too true.
Disney recycled a lot of images back then. There’s a video on youtube talking about it.
By seeing above pictures, I remember my childhood because in my childhood I used to watch Mowgli.
haha mosley xD
its called recycling animation….they just copy old frames to save time and money.
true story, there’s actually a youtube video where you can watch a bulk of disney’s recycling scenes thnaks to someone’s keen eye and patience. crazy to watch..adn kind of sad
Yea disney did repeat itself quite often….but it still didnt take away from their animated movies though
This pretty much ruined a part of my childhood for me. Half sad, half wanting to burst out laughing at how pathetic Disney is.
This isn’t a coincidence. Disney did this with Cinderella, Lady and the Tramp, Robin Hood, and The Jungle Book to save money and time animating. They made templets that they used for different scenes in different movies.
Who ever caught this one is a sheer genius. I know Disney does some quirky stuff but wow!
HOW did you catch this?
same artist, same company. durr.
see reanimation http://www.cracked.com/article/231_5-things-hollywood-reuses-more-than-plots/
Yeah, Disney re use’s a lot of scenes. It’s too save money, and way easier then re-drawing the same things over and over
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