I disagree with you that the entertainment and music industries are guilty of this though. They have way more influence over the public than the fashion industry, and most regular, everyday women hold their standards to healthier looking women like Angelina Jolie, Beyonce, Shakira, Anne Hathaway, etc. The kind of judgment that goes on in the fashion world is completely different that that of Hollywood, unfortunately only the models themselves have the ability to change that.

Compared to Sasha, who always has hooded eyelids, has more defined cheekbones and nose, smaller jaw and forehead.

They are actually going for two totally different looks as well. Gemma is supposed to be like a baby doll on the runway, Sasha is supposed to be like an assassin with her sniper glare.

Funny, I NEVER hear people saying that “rope-thin” girls are sexy. Now everyone says that curvy girls are sexy and very thin is omg unhealthy!

Through splicing of our genes with yours we can now create humans that are far more attractive than ever before. The genes are being gradually introduced into your unborn at night while the mother is sleeping. In a few generations, Your planet will be inhabited with nothing but the most beautiful people.

I’m sorry that you’ve experienced hurtful assumptions from people. I also was never targeting or attacking you with my remarks. I simply feel very concerned about the girls who really are too thin, who really are harming themselves to be what they are told they should be. That’s all.

So you saying exactly that a girl cannot be sexy if she is skinny, and you’re insulting those people who find them attractive.

Most fashion models are naturally skinny, but they also deprive themselves and chain smoke and take stimulants to become even MORE skinny due to the competitiveness of their field, and that is extremely risky and causes permanent damage (just because you haven’t died yet doesn’t mean you’re healthy). Malnourishment affects brain function too, which is probably why so many of them seem foggy when they’re interviewed.

The whole idea that “overweight” people cost the rest of us more than anyone else due to health problems is actually a myth; it’s the people at either end of the scale (the VERY obese and the VERY underweight) who fall ill the most often, not those hovering somewhere around the middle. Numbers on the scale are basically meaningless.

I say again, that bringing up the problem of obesity is not a counterargument. It is absurd to suggest that anorexia is getting “too much attention”, or obesity not enough. I cannot watch TV without seeing a hundred ads for every kind of diet program and diet pill known, some of them unsafe, many of them promoted by showing thin women who want to lose yet more weight. I cannot go anywhere on the internet without being bombarded by banners and flash ads about the “latest great dieting secret!” and images of women’s stomachs and thighs “before and after.” I cannot watch/read the news without seeing some story about obesity and its “health crisis”. To find information about eating disorders or the problem of media promotion of extreme thinness, I generally have to search for it.

No matter how important of a problem obesity is in our society, it does not invalidate the problem that this endless pressure to be thinner than thin creates. Do you understand that little girls not even in high school starve themselves because of this? It has nothing to do with attacking or resenting people who are naturally and healthfully slender, nor with suggesting that “being fat is normal”. There is a medical definition of a normal, average body weight to height ratio, and BMI. It is not a mathematical average based on how many people are fat or thin, it is a medical understanding of the typical size and shape that a healthy lifestyle usually produces. The current “fashionable” look for models, actresses, pop stars, and so on, does not represent in any sense, this healthy shape. I’m not saying thin women can’t be healthy, merely that, as you said yourself, healthy women are not necessarily always rail thin, but rail thin is the only image deemed acceptable by these industries, and that is doing damage.

You are right that name-calling doesn’t help any situation, and while frustration can make it hard to resist, in the end it is only hurtful and pointless. Really, what I have been trying to say has nothing to do with the two girls pictured above, as I am not even all that familiar with them, and the pictures show only their faces. Neither actually looks especially gaunt to me. I just felt the need to express my feelings about the subject, since it was being discussed. I could have looked for a forum somewhere in which everyone was talking about how models are too thin, but I figured, why preach to the choir? This IS a genuine problem, and until it is talked about by more people, in more places, it will never be changed. If the comment section of a tangentially related TLL is a place where a few people will listen, then so be it.

I am not attacking Sasha or Gemma, or assuming that they personally have eating disorders. Neither am I attacking naturally slender people, or remotely suggesting that slender people should put on weight in order to “make me feel better.” I am merely criticizing an industry, several industries in fact, which enforce as not merely an ideal, but as a standard, as an expectation, a body image that is for most women unattainable through any safe and healthy means.

8-10 is an average healthy size for an adult woman, at least by the sizing standards I am accustomed to seeing. If some companies alter their sizing, that’s another issue.

When you kinda start out fat,…most of the time they just get fatter

Models have DIED trying to maintain these preposterous “ideal” body weights. Young, educated, employed women living in countries with high standards of living, have DIED OF STARVATION because of this.

And then when anyone tries to criticize this ongoing cruelty, someone turns around and says, “Are you sure this isn’t just all about how you feel about yourself?”

Yes. I’m sure.

I don’t think it’s art when it’s actually hurting and killing people.

I’m fat, I hate it, but I also feel sorry for the girls, because they must be hungry all the time!

Yes people may seem to care about how someone looks but, inside no one really cares except yourself…